Polaris Freedom?

So I picked up the Freedom over the AlphaIQ and am glad I did. A couple of caveats before I go any further this is my first pool and robotic cleaner, so I can not compare it to other models. This will be the first season I will be enjoying my pool. Now with that out of the way, I can personally say the Polaris Freedom is a mighty compact beast!

I ran it on smart cycle, and it had no issues cleaning the floor, walls and waterline! It did it effortlessly and has a powerful cyclonic vacuum that sucks up the grime and dirt in the pool. It could climb two out of my three steps, and you could visually/hear the suction if it popped up above the waterline on a step shooting out all the water at the back. My pool is a rectangle 16 x 30 vinyl salt water pool, and it was able to clean in a little over two hours. The first clean of the pool captured lots of caked on dirt, leaves and other debris sitting at the bottom. Since it was the first clean of this pool, I was worried whether the canister would be big enough (4L) to capture everything. There were no issues with plenty of room left in the canister. The second clean had less to pick up, but I was surprised how much more grime it did pick up. I have no complaints and am highly impressed with its cleaning ability and keeping the pool spotless.

Here are a couple of things to keep in mind. The iAqualink app is great for choosing your cycle and checking the charging status, but once you put the Freedom in the pool, it loses connection to the app, and you can not control your vacuum from your phone. If you choose smart cycle, it will tell you how much time is left and do a countdown in the app that you can monitor. It does send you a notification to your phone for the last 10 minutes of its cycle. However, to receive it correctly, you need to set up your notifications properly on your phone. For instance, on my iPhone, I have notifications to be immediately delivered on the lock screen, notification centre and banner with style set to persistent with show previews set to Always. These settings will ensure that you get the notification to retrieve the cleaner.

My charging station (which is super easy to put together) is set up in my shed. After each run, I use a towel (30 secs) to dry the unit quickly and plop it on the charger. It does take the full 4 hours to charge the unit. Be aware the clear top can easily be scuffed. After my first run, I had to pull the unit out using the hook, but it was raining at night, so I couldn't correctly see the handle. After several attempts, I got it out, but the hook scuffed the top of the clear canister. My fault, but I thought I should let you know.

Overall, I am thrilled with Freedom's build quality and cleaning abilities and am happy that I chose it over the AlphaIQ+. If you want and need a robust smart system where you can schedule and do spot cleaning, this is not the unit for you, but if you will barely be using those features and you want to keep your pool deck clear of a caddy, electrical wire and hose, this is the perfect unit for you. I hope this helps people in their buying decision. If you have any questions, send them my way, and I will attempt to answer them. Now I am just waiting for the weather to warm up so I can start using the pool on a regular basis.IMG_1531.jpeg
 

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Eagerly looking to hear the update on a real user owning one! I see that it's once again on sale at Leslie's $1259 + $50 mail in rebate per the email I got. I've got to make a decision on the Aiper this week. I believe at this point, it is likely to go back. It does a decent enough job, but I'm just worried about the longevity of it.
I just posted my quick thoughts on the unit.
 
Is it obvious how to access the battery pack or the motor assembly? Both of those are going to be the Achilles Heel of any pool cleaner. Li-ion batteries age over time and lose charge capacity. With the frequent deep-discharge cycling of a pool cleaner, I imagine that will be the first component to need replacements. Motor assembly failures typically depend on how well cared for the cleaner is by the owner (taking it out of the pool, hosing it off, keeping it stored out of the elements, etc). Fluid is the parent company for Jandy/Zodiac/Polaris/etc and they are famous for not supplying spare parts directly to consumers. It will be useful to see how your robot progresses over the months and years. You might keep a detailed log of charging and usage hours to see if you can spot battery aging.
 
Is it obvious how to access the battery pack or the motor assembly? Both of those are going to be the Achilles Heel of any pool cleaner. Li-ion batteries age over time and lose charge capacity. With the frequent deep-discharge cycling of a pool cleaner, I imagine that will be the first component to need replacements. Motor assembly failures typically depend on how well cared for the cleaner is by the owner (taking it out of the pool, hosing it off, keeping it stored out of the elements, etc). Fluid is the parent company for Jandy/Zodiac/Polaris/etc and they are famous for not supplying spare parts directly to consumers. It will be useful to see how your robot progresses over the months and years. You might keep a detailed log of charging and usage hours to see if you can spot battery aging.
The battery pack is serviceable, and I'm not too worried about the battery not lasting. It will probably degrade by 12 to 15% over 10 years, by which time I will be buying a new cleaner. I was told that if I had issues, I would need to contact Polaris directly, and the shop I purchased from would service the unit. I will report back if any issues arise but so far, so good.
 
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And to add to the mix, a video "review" (really unboxing and quick run) of a Dolphin Liberty 200:

At $999 versus ~$1200 for Polaris (on sale), I think I would lean towards the Polaris. Note that this is the 200, not the higher end models.
 
The run time on the Polaris is an hour longer, and the battery seems much bigger on the Polaris too (9.6 Ah vs. 5 Ah). It's hard for me to believe any of the Liberty models would outshine the Polaris from a cleaning standpoint.
 
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Just fyi. I called Leslie's to see if they were still running the sale and he said it ended yesterday. He said to check back the last two weekends of May (not week days). He thought they would run another one.
 

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They need to prove they can go the distance first before we start getting into advanced upgrade options. Right now the track record for robots of any kind seems to be 3-5 years of service life before they are dead and that’s the corded models. Throwing in a Li-ion battery pack with deep/frequent discharge cycle and exposure to the elements only increases the probability of expensive failures.

Skepticism is warranted …
 
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I'm hoping a review pops up somewhere, but I see absolutely nothing out there. I have another 2 weeks with the Aiper before my return window ends, but may investigate the Polaris version here soon enough. I'm with everyone else and would assume that the bots from the bigger brands would last longer. I had a Smorobot late last year that lasted exactly 3 times before it died.
lol are you me? I tried the smorobot last year and it lasted two weeks before dying. I returned it and they sent me one free to try out (and I assume request a favorable review at some point), that replacement lasted about a week before dying also. They admitted they were aware of water intrusion issues and an updated model is now out but I couldn't convince them to send me one of the new ones.

I pre-ordered the Seagull Pro in Feb and when I finally got it (after two price drops) I found its path algorithm to be really bad. This pic from after a storm shows that it just skipped parts going up and down the sides, it also seemed to take some random paths along the bottom that was way different than what they advertised. The smorobot when it worked did really well in this aspect.

Now I am looking for something from one of the better known brands either the Polaris Freedom or the Dolphin Liberty. Seems like the Dolphin is intentionally software limited to create feature differentiation of the 200,300,400 which I feel is pretty lame considering how expensive they are. The Polaris has a bigger battery but one year less warranty, I really dont want to deal with cables i have enough Crud in my backyard already.
 

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lol are you me? I tried the smorobot last year and it lasted two weeks before dying. I returned it and they sent me one free to try out (and I assume request a favorable review at some point), that replacement lasted about a week before dying also. They admitted they were aware of water intrusion issues and an updated model is now out but I couldn't convince them to send me one of the new ones.

I pre-ordered the Seagull Pro in Feb and when I finally got it (after two price drops) I found its path algorithm to be really bad. This pic from after a storm shows that it just skipped parts going up and down the sides, it also seemed to take some random paths along the bottom that was way different than what they advertised. The smorobot when it worked did really well in this aspect.

Now I am looking for something from one of the better known brands either the Polaris Freedom or the Dolphin Liberty. Seems like the Dolphin is intentionally software limited to create feature differentiation of the 200,300,400 which I feel is pretty lame considering how expensive they are. The Polaris has a bigger battery but one year less warranty, I really dont want to deal with cables i have enough Crud in my backyard already.
I think you'd be happy with the Freedom. I've ran mine 3-4 times now and it does a good job.
 
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