Anyone can share info on the Home Depot Xtremepowerus VSP?

[Adonisinpool]

I'm in South Florida and need to get a new pump. I looked through the forum to no avail.

I have an old 1 hp pump and it's time to get the variable speed pump. Boy they are expensive.
I was looking at the Eco-Boost 1.5 HP 230-Volt In-Ground Swimming Pool Pump with Variable Speed and LED Control Panel, model 75019

XtremepowerUS Eco-Boost 1.5 HP 230-Volt In-Ground Swimming Pool Pump with Variable Speed and LED Control Panel 75019-H1 - The Home Depot

Can anybody shed some light into this pump? I rather not spend $1000 for a VSP.

It's an old 12,000 gallon pool with the 1 1/4" PVC pipes.
It has just 1 skimmer, 1 drain, 2 returns and 1 vac port for the Hayward Navigator through a C-900 cartridge filter. That's it.
No spa, waterfall, etc.

I had the vacuum line installed some years ago. That's a 2" pipe.

Also, is it ok to go with the 1.5 hp VSP pump to replace a 1hp pump with my 1 1/4" pipes?

Any other information would be greatly appreciated.

 

[ajw22]

Welcome to TFP.

It is one of many inexpensive Chinese pumps now being imported with no support or warranty.

It may work for you if you can DIY any issues without manufacturer support.

Your 1 1/4 pipes can handle any HP VS pump. You don’t run VS pumps at maximum speed and HP.

 

[ajw22]

Consider this pump. This retailer will give you more support than HD will. And it may be the same pump with different branding.

CaliMar® Variable Speed Pool Pump | 1.5HP | CMAR15VS1.5

Pool Supply Unlimited has some of the best prices when shopping for CaliMar® Variable Speed Pool Pump | 1.5HP | CMAR15VS1.5

www.poolsupplyunlimited.com

Calimar/Circupool/BD/Blue Torrent Pump - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

I haven't seen much feedback on that pump. It looks like it only carries a 30-day warranty.

As Allen says, the Calimar line carries a pretty good reputation here for reliability and value. You can also add an automation panel for $35 for future expansion. You might even consider the 3 hp version.

 

[Adonisinpool]

Welcome to TFP.

It is one of many inexpensive Chinese pumps now being imported with no support or warranty.

It may work for you if you can DIY any issues without manufacturer support.

Your 1 1/4 pipes can handle any HP VS pump. You don’t run VS pumps at maximum speed and HP.

Aren't all pumps made in China, nowadays?

I think it either has the 30 days or 1 year warranty but I will purchase the 3 year warranty with it for $60 more.

I'm sure all VSP pump starts with 5 minutes of prime at max speed and then goes down. That's ok, right?

 

[Adonisinpool]

Consider this pump. This retailer will give you more support than HD will. And it may be the same pump with different branding.

CaliMar® Variable Speed Pool Pump | 1.5HP | CMAR15VS1.5

Pool Supply Unlimited has some of the best prices when shopping for CaliMar® Variable Speed Pool Pump | 1.5HP | CMAR15VS1.5

www.poolsupplyunlimited.com

Calimar/Circupool/BD/Blue Torrent Pump - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Ok, I'll check this pump out.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

I'm sure all VSP pump starts with 5 minutes of prime at max speed and then goes down. That's ok, right?

On most VS pumps, prime speed and time can be adjusted.

 

[Adonisinpool]

I just found this pump on the Home Depot website. This is a 1 hp VSP. Wouldn't this be better suited for my 1 1/4" pipes and more energy efficient than a 1.5 hp VSP?

K2 1 HP Variable Speed Pool Pump PPV10001SPK - The Home Depot

The K2 1 HP Variable Speed Pool Pump is self-priming and suitable for inground swimming pools. The DOE and CEC compliant 230-Volt motor operates at low, medium and high speeds. The permanent magnet, totally

www.homedepot.com

 

[ajw22]

I just found this pump on the Home Depot website. This is a 1 hp VSP. Wouldn't this be better suited for my 1 1/4" pipes and more energy efficient than a 1.5 hp VSP?

No, that is not the way energy efficiency with VS pumps works. Low HP does not mean more efficient. Low HP means you have to run a higher RPM, which uses more energy, for a given flow rate.

A higher HP pump can run at lower RPMs, and use less electricity, for the same flow rate.

High HP pumps run at low RPMs are the most energy efficient.

How to select pool equipment - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

According to the description, the last pump you posted is actually a 3-speed as opposed to a variable speed.

 

[Adonisinpool]

No, that is not the way energy efficiency with VS pumps works. Low HP does not mean more efficient. Low HP means you have to run a higher RPM, which uses more energy, for a given flow rate.

A higher HP pump can run at lower RPMs, and use less electricity, for the same flow rate.

High HP pumps run at low RPMs are the most energy efficient.

How to select pool equipment - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Oooh. That makes sense. I'm learning something new everyday.
So in other words, a 1 hp pump running at 1400 rpm would produce a much lower flow rate than a 1.5 hp pump requiring more energy?

Thus a 1.5 hp pump can run it, let's say 800 rpm, to achieve the same flow rate as a 1 hp pump running 1400 rpm and would be much more energy efficient?

 

[Adonisinpool]

According to the description, the last pump you posted is actually a 3-speed as opposed to a variable speed.

Which one? Both of them are variable speed pump at either 1hp or 1.5hp.

 

[ajw22]

Oooh. That makes sense. I'm learning something new everyday.
So in other words, a 1 hp pump running at 1400 rpm would produce a much lower flow rate than a 1.5 hp pump requiring more energy?

Thus a 1.5 hp pump can run it, let's say 800 rpm, to achieve the same flow rate as a 1 hp pump running 1400 rpm and would be much more energy efficient?

Correct.

The RPM required to create the HP and flow rate is what determines the electrical energy consumed.

Most pool pump motors run at 3450 RPM maximum regardless of HP. Some new BS pump motors are running up to 4000 rpm.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

Which one? Both of them are variable speed pump at either 1hp or 1.5hp.

I stand corrected. The three speeds can be programmed for different rpms.

 

[Adonisinpool]

I stand corrected. The three speeds can be programmed for different rpms.

I'm not understanding you. Please elaborate. Thanks

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

It is a VS pump. On the control panel there are three preset buttons labeled low, medium, and high. Each of these can be programmed at your desired speed. You can also set your desired speed for the auto program.

 

[Adonisinpool]

It is a VS pump. On the control panel there are three preset buttons labeled low, medium, and high. Each of these can be programmed at your desired speed. You can also set your desired speed for the auto program.

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Gotcha. I understand now.

 

[Adonisinpool]

Correct.

The RPM required to create the HP and flow rate is what determines the electrical energy consumed.

Most pool pump motors run at 3450 RPM maximum regardless of HP. Some new BS pump motors are running up to 4000 rpm.

Gotcha. Let me ask you this. How does the 1.5 hp flow more water at the same rpm as the 1 hp? They have bigger impellers?

Also, under the specs, I noticed the Xtremepower 1.5hp uses 9.5 amps whereas the K2 1.5hp uses 5.0 amps. Would this means the K2 is more efficient?

 

[PoolStored]

They have bigger impellers?

Yes, and volute.

I noticed the Xtremepower 1.5hp uses 9.5 amps whereas the K2 1.5hp uses 5.0 amps. Would this means the K2 is more efficient?

Yes.

 

[Adonisinpool]

I noticed the Xtremepower 1.5hp uses 9.5 amps whereas the K2 1.5hp uses 5.0 amps. Would this means the K2 is more efficient?

Yes.

I'm a little baffled. I noticed the K2 1hp uses 3.2 amps. So if I get the K2 1hp and run it at 1400 rpm, it would be more efficient than the Xtremepower 1.5 hp 9.5 amp running at 800 rpm achieving similar flow rate? I used this calculation, K2 3.2x1200=4480, Xtreme 9.5x800=7600. I thought the bigger pump would be more energy efficient at lower rpm?