SPA and heat pump heater - but what pump?

tizey

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Oct 1, 2023
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Melbourne, Australia
I'm halfway through my pool/spa plumbing equipment update and relocation, having purchased an existing house with poorly located and very aged and failing equipment.

I have successfully completed the pool - pump, sand filter and SWG - which has independent filtration and heating lines, so that was relatively easy to get my head around, but I'm struggling with the spa. Heat pump being wired in this weekend by electrician.

Spa/Pool water is completely independent systems - there is no common plumbing between the two.

My concern is only having 1 x 50mm (2inch) suction pipe from the SPA, and setting up eithrr a GAS or HEAT PUMP heater - how do I maintain the right flow rate through the heater, whilst maintaining high flow rate for the jets? The existing setup had the 2hp pump plumbed directly into the gas heater with no bypass - I have a suspicion this is what killed the existing gas heater as everything else worked?

I understand the logic behind a bypass valve setup on a heater, but given the heat pump will likely have to run for a few hours each day to keep the SPA hot, is this likely to be sufficient?

Ideally, I'd like to have a filtration/heater pump and then a separate booster for the jets - noise is a factor and don't want a 2hp pump running unnecessarily because of this reason. Cost is not overly an issue if I can achieve a good outcome.

Is this possible with just one water line, and maintaining the heater on whilst in the SPA?

I can't figure this one out. Any help would be appreciated.
 
I would suggest a variable speed pump. I also would suggest a gas heater for the spa. I don't think a heat pump can put enough heat out.
 
Appreciate the feedback. I spoke with a gasfitter who does pool heating, and he was the one convincing me a heat pump was the way to go. It's a small spa (1500-2000 litres) - with a hard cover on it, will keep it hot - same size heat pump heater as a 40000 litre pool.

Gas is a potential too, so not sold either way yet. Heat pump has its benefit as have PV panels on our roof, so long term will be cheaper than gas.

But how do I overcome the flow issue? A VS pump on low to circulate and filter, then turn it up to boost jets? Wouldn't this throw the flow rate through the heater out of spec? This is the problem I'm trying to overcome?

The old pump attached to the spa was 2hp - I can't find a VS that powerful?
 
3hp VSPs are common here.

How hot do you want your spa? I don't think a heat pump can physically go past 104. And that'll take some time to get to.

Generally the pump spins up to whatever device needs the most. It should be more than capable of running the spa jets and heater pressure switch.
 
But how do I overcome the flow issue? A VS pump on low to circulate and filter, then turn it up to boost jets? Wouldn't this throw the flow rate through the heater out of spec? This is the problem I'm trying to overcome?

Some Heat Pumps have an internal bypass that will automatically regulate the maximum flow through the heat exchanger so that it is not eroded from high flow.

If you HP you get does not have an internal bypass you can install an external bypass like his...



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The old pump attached to the spa was 2hp - I can't find a VS that powerful?

I don't know what VS pumps are available to you. Here in the USA VS pumps can be 2.7 HP to 3 HP to 3.95 HP.

Maybe some of your mates can help - @mgtfp @AUSpool @aussieta
 
Most VS pumps here seem to be around 1-1.5HP, some up to 2-2.5HP. Haven't really seen anything much above that.

Dual speed maybe up to 3HP.
 
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