What settings for new Pentair Intelliflo VSF pump

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The spillway function that is built into the EasyTouch basically turns off all your pool returns... This is why we only suggest it run for an hour or so per day..

Since the spillover seems to be getting in the way of good skimming, does it make sense to continue to run it?

This is what I would do.. I would set up the spillway function and schedule to to run once or twice a day for half an hour to an hour at a time.. Then I would set up a button the would allow you to turn on the spillway at other times if needed.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
P,

The spillway function that is built into the EasyTouch basically turns off all your pool returns... This is why we only suggest it run for an hour or so per day..

Since the spillover seems to be getting in the way of good skimming, does it make sense to continue to run it?

This is what I would do.. I would set up the spillway function and schedule to to run once or twice a day for half an hour to an hour at a time.. Then I would set up a button the would allow you to turn on the spillway at other times if needed.

Thanks,

Jim R.
Ok, I like that idea. Is that possible? And to also have a button that runs the pump at 2700 or so RPMs without the Polaris cleaner, to skim the stuff off the top if we wanted to swim at a time that wasn’t already running?
 
P,

What say we set up the following schedule and see how it works.. Spa would still spillover for now..

Pool Circuit runs from 8 am until 8 pm at 1500 rpm
Cleaner Circuit runs from 9 am to 12 noon at 2750 rpm.. just like now
New Skim Circuit runs from 1 pm until 4 pm at 2500 rpm..

If it works we can then set up the spillway function... to automatically come on once a day or by button..

Let me know..

Jim R.
 
P,

What say we set up the following schedule and see how it works.. Spa would still spillover for now..

Pool Circuit runs from 8 am until 8 pm at 1500 rpm
Cleaner Circuit runs from 9 am to 12 noon at 2750 rpm.. just like now
New Skim Circuit runs from 1 pm until 4 pm at 2500 rpm..

If it works we can then set up the spillway function... to automatically come on once a day or by button..

Let me know..

Jim R.
I like that schedule. Now is there a way to use one of the remaining buttons on my remote to run that skim circuit at will?
 
P,

Ok, We are going to set up your new circuit. We will call it "Pool High" as it is already preprogrammed into the EasyTouch Then we are going to set the speed for Pool High to 2500 rpm. Pushing the Aux 6 button on the main panel will make the pump run at 2500 UNLESS it is already running faster than 2500..

Please do the following and let me know if this works.. No sense in doing anything else until we know the these initial steps are working.

Select Menu- Menu which gets you into the menu
Scroll to Settings and select..
Scroll to Circuit Names and select
You should see something like 1/18.. meaning you are looking at page 1 of 18
Scroll until you see Aux 6. Select Aux 6 and it should flash.
While flashing, Scroll until you find "Pool High".. There is a long list of possible names
Once the flashing display shows Pool High, push Menu to save..

Get back into the Menu
Scroll to Setting and Select
Scroll to IntelliFlo and Select
Scroll to Pump #1 (your system may or may not have this, but it should be similar)
Scroll to Speeds and Select.. You should see 1/8 or maybe 1/4 meaning you are looking at page 1 of 8 or 1 of 4..
Scroll until you find "None" as a Circuit name... This means this Circuit is not being used.
Select the page that says None
Scroll down to speeds and change the speed to 2500
Scroll to down None and it should flash...
Scroll to set None to "Pool High"
Once flashing says "Pool High" push Menu to save..

If you did everything correctly, when you push the Aux 6 button, the pump should (in steps) ramp us to 2500 rpm.. Pushing the Aux 6 button again should return the pump to original speed..

Give it a shot and let me know what happens.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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Perfect.. :thumleft:

Now let's set up a schedule to run the following..

Pool Circuit runs from 8 am until 8 pm at 1800 rpm
Cleaner Circuit runs from 9 am to 12 noon at 2750 rpm.. just like now
New Pool High Circuit runs from 1 pm until 4 pm at 2500 rpm..

Menu
Schedule and Select.. You will see a List of Circuits with a number.. If the number is zero that circuit is not scheduled..

Scroll and find "Pool" and Select

Reschedule Pool for 8 am until 8 pm 7 days a week and save

Do the same thing for Cleaner -- it should be good as is, but it is best to check to be sure. If ok as is, you don't need to change it.

Do the same thing for Pool High.. It should show a zero since it is new. Schedule it for 1 pm until 4 pm and save..

My goal here is just to get you familiar with how the EasyTouch works, so that you can change the schedule and speeds whenever you want..

Let me know if you run into any issues... Once that is set up, we can do the spillway..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
P,

Perfect.. :thumleft:

Now let's set up a schedule to run the following..

Pool Circuit runs from 8 am until 8 pm at 1800 rpm
Cleaner Circuit runs from 9 am to 12 noon at 2750 rpm.. just like now
New Pool High Circuit runs from 1 pm until 4 pm at 2500 rpm..

Menu
Schedule and Select.. You will see a List of Circuits with a number.. If the number is zero that circuit is not scheduled..

Scroll and find "Pool" and Select

Reschedule Pool for 8 am until 8 pm 7 days a week and save

Do the same thing for Cleaner -- it should be good as is, but it is best to check to be sure. If ok as is, you don't need to change it.

Do the same thing for Pool High.. It should show a zero since it is new. Schedule it for 1 pm until 4 pm and save..

My goal here is just to get you familiar with how the EasyTouch works, so that you can change the schedule and speeds whenever you want..

Let me know if you run into any issues... Once that is set up, we can do the spillway..

Thanks,

Jim R.
Ok, I have the schedule all set!
 
P,

OK... Now to set up the Spillway you need to do the following.. (This is a test.. :mrgreen: )

Change the Circuit Name of Aux 7 to "Spillway"

Change the Circuit Function of the new Spillway Circuit to "Spillway" You have not done this one before, but I suspect you can handle it..

Set a pump speed for the new "Spillway" circuit.. You will need to experiment with what speed works best.. I would start with 2K rpm. (Keep in mind the pump always runs the fastest speed, so 2K many not do anything depending on when it is scheduled)

When you push Aux 7 the Intake valve should move to, or stay in, the Pool mode, and the Return valve should stay in, or move to, the Spa mode. All the water will be sucked from the Pool and all of it sent to the Spa. It will be a gusher if the pump is running at a high speed..

The problem is that this, by itself, will not shut off the constant overflow of the spa, when in the Pool mode.. You will need to either adjust the Return valve actuator so the it rotates to a full spa off position when in the normal Pool mode.. Or, you will have to shut off the make-up valve... I can't remember which you have..

Please let me know if you passed the test.. :)

If it works great.. You can then schedule it once a day for an hour or twice a day for a half an hour.. This should keep the spa water fresh..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
So, I have had to turn up my standard pool setting to 2000 RPMs to keep the SWCG running. Anything under that, and it trips the flow sensor on the the SWCG. I don’t know if it is because of the extra flow going to the spillway all the time, or what.
 
P,

OK... Now to set up the Spillway you need to do the following.. (This is a test.. :mrgreen: )

Change the Circuit Name of Aux 7 to "Spillway"

Change the Circuit Function of the new Spillway Circuit to "Spillway" You have not done this one before, but I suspect you can handle it..

Set a pump speed for the new "Spillway" circuit.. You will need to experiment with what speed works best.. I would start with 2K rpm. (Keep in mind the pump always runs the fastest speed, so 2K many not do anything depending on when it is scheduled)

When you push Aux 7 the Intake valve should move to, or stay in, the Pool mode, and the Return valve should stay in, or move to, the Spa mode. All the water will be sucked from the Pool and all of it sent to the Spa. It will be a gusher if the pump is running at a high speed..

The problem is that this, by itself, will not shut off the constant overflow of the spa, when in the Pool mode.. You will need to either adjust the Return valve actuator so the it rotates to a full spa off position when in the normal Pool mode.. Or, you will have to shut off the make-up valve... I can't remember which you have..

Please let me know if you passed the test.. :)

If it works great.. You can then schedule it once a day for an hour or twice a day for a half an hour.. This should keep the spa water fresh..

Thanks,

Jim R.
And the spillway function worked perfectly. Now I am wondering if I should have the spillway shut off, especially when I am running at a low speed for normal operations.
 
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How is your SWCG plumbed into your system.. In most pools the SWCG is before the Return valve, so it means that all the water going to the pool or spa has to go through the cell.. How is your cell connected? Does it just chlorinate the Pool???

2K to turn the cell on sounds pretty high to me.... What is your filter pressure and when is the last time the filter was cleaned??

Did you adjust the actuator so that in the Pool mode you no longer have a constant spa overflow?

You do NOT want to run the Spillway mode all the time.. this is because you are sending all the water to the spa and no longer have any of your pool eyeball returns working.. That is why you only run the Spillway mode an hour or so a day.

Sorry, but I have gotten a little lost... :rolleyes: Is the system doing what you want now? If not, what do we need to modify?

Sounds to me like you have a pretty good idea how to program the EasyTouch..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
P,

How is your SWCG plumbed into your system.. In most pools the SWCG is before the Return valve, so it means that all the water going to the pool or spa has to go through the cell.. How is your cell connected? Does it just chlorinate the Pool???

2K to turn the cell on sounds pretty high to me.... What is your filter pressure and when is the last time the filter was cleaned??

Did you adjust the actuator so that in the Pool mode you no longer have a constant spa overflow?

You do NOT want to run the Spillway mode all the time.. this is because you are sending all the water to the spa and no longer have any of your pool eyeball returns working.. That is why you only run the Spillway mode an hour or so a day.

Sorry, but I have gotten a little lost... :rolleyes: Is the system doing what you want now? If not, what do we need to modify?

Sounds to me like you have a pretty good idea how to program the EasyTouch..

Thanks,

Jim R.
The SWCG only chlorinated the pool. I have not adjust the actuator yet. I am guessing that’s what I need to do. The filters were just cleaned about a month ago, so they are good.
 
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If you have yet to adjust the actuator and the SWCG is only connect to the pool flow, then it makes sense that would have to run the pump faster to send enough water through the cell.. The more water going to the spa, the faster you will have to run the pump to make the SWCG work..

If this were my pool, I'd adjust the Return actuator so that when in the pool mode, the spa is completely shut off.. Without the spa overflow, you should be able to run your pump a lot slower..

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
P,

If you have yet to adjust the actuator and the SWCG is only connect to the pool flow, then it makes sense that would have to run the pump faster to send enough water through the cell.. The more water going to the spa, the faster you will have to run the pump to make the SWCG work..

If this were my pool, I'd adjust the Return actuator so that when in the pool mode, the spa is completely shut off.. Without the spa overflow, you should be able to run your pump a lot slower..

Thanks,

Jim R.
I will work on getting the actuator configured this weekend. I assume all that info will be in the manual for the actuator?
 

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