Testing bulk chlorine

Old Guard

In The Industry
Apr 14, 2022
54
Flowood Mississippi
Pool Size
420000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
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I inherited a sealed 55 gallon drum of 12½ Sodium hypochlorite that had been sitting outside in the sun for two years. The chlorine straight out of the barrel tested 0 PPM.

While we are on this subject, I manage the chemistry and infrastructure of five YMCA pools (three indoor and two outdoor) that collectively contain 800,000 gallons of water. I'm now buying all of my liquid chlorine in 55 gallon drums marked as 12½ Sodium hypochlorite. They were usually filled within 30 days prior to delivery and seem to be well above the advertised 12½%. I go through about six of these in an average month. I am not confident that the method I am using to test these barrels is accurate.

When I started, I put four drops of the material straight out of the drum into a gallon of distilled water, shook well, tested using my regular Taylor 1,2,3 reagents and doubled the PPM result to arrive at the % in the barrel. While this system seemed to work, I doubted its accuracy so I moved to a serial dilution method. Specifically, I put 1 ml of the material in the barrel into 199 ml of distilled water and mixed well. Then I took 1 ml of that solution and mixed it in with a fresh 199 ml of distilled water. That, I believe results in a 1:40,000 dilution. I test that and multiply the resulting PPM by 4. That method is telling me I'm getting more than 20% at the barrel level. I can tell you the the stuff straight out of the barrel burns your skin if not rinsed off within 30 seconds or so. Nothing from the pool or big-box store ever had that effect on me.

Would somebody who is better at math and chemistry than me check/correct my math or suggest a better method for testing my freshly opened barrels?
 
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Well your math is completely correct. The only flaw with this method is accurately measuring those 1mm samples. If you using a 200ml graduated cylinder it pretty hard to measure 1ml with better than about 20% accuracy. But if you are using a calibrated pipette or some similar measuring device your results should be reasonably accurate.
 
You can test the strength of your chlorine by diluting 10,000 to 1 - Put 1ml of bleach in 100ml of distilled water, mix well, then take 1ml of that and mix into another 100ml of distilled water. Then test this mixture with your test kit like normal. Whatever ppm you get as a result is equal to the percentage in your barrel.
 
I manage 5 YMCA pools (3 indoor and 2 outdoor) totaling 800,000 gallons and go through an average of six 55-gallon barrels of "12½%" sodium hypochlorite every month. I need a way to reliably test freshly opened barrels for their actual potency. For my first go at this, I was putting four drops of the barrel contents into a gallon of distilled water, mixing well and testing for free chlorine using my standard Taylor 1 and 2 reagents. I doubled that PPM result to arrive at the actual % of Sodium hypochlorite in the barrel. That was good enough to know whether or not to reject a barrel but seemed imprecise. Next I switched to putting 1 ml of the straight barrel contents into 200 ml of distilled water. I removed 1 ml from that solution and put that into a fresh 200 ml of distilled water. After testing the second solution with my standard Taylor reagents I multiply that FC PPM result by 4 to arrive at the % in the barrel. Either I am doing something wrong or I am getting some darn fine bleach. It consistently tests > 20%. Would someone check my math and method?
 
Interesting following along.... Are you given a range of chlorine percent from the maker or is it supposed to be a straight exact percent each time? Chlorine does degrade maybe you are just getting a fresh(er) batch and they make it stronger to begin with. But I'd think with commercial applications being precise would be more important.
 
If you are using that much liquid chlorine then you should contact Taylor Technologies and purchase one of their commercial bleach testing kits. It’s based on the starch-iodine method of chlorine testing and will give very accurate results in units of % hypochlorite. No need to do serial dilutions that will cause errors.
 
PoolGate my guess is that they fill the barrels with a more potent solution than they advertise on the labels just knowing that it will degrade as it moves through the supply chain. The barrels I am getting were all filled within a few weeks of their arrival at my pools so they have not degraded much if at all.
JoyfulNoise your suggestion led me to Taylor's K-1579. The instructions are scary. I called the "Test Guy" at Taylor. His name is Wayne and his extension is 121. He made it less scary. After your suggestion and talking to Wayne, I do think this is the way to go. Wayne (who can be a bit overbearing on first exposure) taught me two new things: 1. Trying to use serial dilution and R1 and R2 will more often than not lead to misleading results and 2. Sodium Hypochlorite—no matter how young and well treated—will almost never be stronger than 15% because it is rarely stronger than this at the actual point of manufacture.

I'll get the kit and report back.
 
Wayne is a good guy. He runs all their online courses on water care. You can take them for free ... they are interesting. And I agree with him on all points especially the last one - liquid chlorine manufacturers setup their manufacturing process in a batch array so that the end product coming out of the final batch cell is around 15-16%. When they want 10% LC or 6% LC, they simple tap the product stream at a different point in the chain (it's multiple cells connected in series and parallel). Sort of like how one enriches nuclear fuel, you simply tap the UF6 gas stream at the centrifuge you need. Bomb grade uranium comes out the end of the line ....
 
Well your math is completely correct. The only flaw with this method is accurately measuring those 1mm samples. If you using a 200ml graduated cylinder it pretty hard to measure 1ml with better than about 20% accuracy. But if you are using a calibrated pipette or some similar measuring device your results should be reasonably accurate.
I have been using a 1ml syringe for this. Still resting out at >=5 PPM which X 4=>=20% which, I now know, is highly improbable.
 
The liquid chlorine you are receiving is measured in Trade % sodium hypochlorite. The test kit you are using measures in parts per million (mg/L) of chlorine gas (Cl2). They are not equivalent units. You have to first convert the liquid chlorine to % available chlorine. 12.5% (trade %) chlorinating liquid is approximately 11.3 wt% NaOCl which works out to approximately 10.78% available chlorine.

You can read all about it here -

 
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