Lighted bubbler or mini LED on tanning ledge?

Jul 16, 2017
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Beaumont TX
We are in the final stages of our pool design and are trying to decide on the lighting plan. Currently our design has 1 5g intellibright pool light, one intellibright spa light and 2 Globright mini LEDs one at tanning shelf and one at the pool steps.

I am going to get a quote to add lighted bubblers instead of the 2 Globrights. Thoughts on this option? Does anyone here have lighted bubblers? Are you happy with them? Will this provide enough light?
 
I have bubblers on my sun shelf, but they aren't lighted. Nor do I have a light on my shelf, and it could use one. This is my take on it.... Bubblers are loud, so when you're in the pool at night, will you want that noise on the entire time? You might, I don't know. But I wouldn't. Sometimes, I want to relax quietly and the noise would be irritating.

I haven't seen the lighted bubblers in person, but I think they would be awesome! Can you do both lighted bubblers and stand alone lights? I don't know what your pool design is... If the steps are connected to the shelf, would one light be enough for the steps and the shelf?
 
Thanks for adding the plan and pool rendering. I would keep the Globrights - I think you will need them.

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Your pool is going to be awesome - I love your plan!
 
We have one lighted bubbler on the tanning ledge. It's a Zodiac/SAVI LED lighted bubbler which unfortunately has never worked well. The light is great and when it works it really looks nice. But our PB is telling me he has several other customers having issues and that the manufacturer is having troubles with it. It has yet to give me a nice, uniform "spout" and is very sensitive to both water depth and valve settings. If the pool water is choppy due to the waterfalls or swimmers, the bubbler just cannot perform. Discussions with our PB continue....

Mike
 
What's the depth of your sun shelf? According to my PB, bubblers work best in very shallow water -- think 6" or less. He said he once put one in a 12" shelf and it was "lame." Since we wanted a deeper sun shelf (about 15"), he would have had to raise the bubblers on a pedestal, step, or bench, which didn't really work for us. We ended up going with the omnilogic mini led lights on the sun shelf and swim-out bench, which work great.
 
I think the depth of the shelf is 6". We decided to go with the mini LEDs instead of the lighted bubblers.

What are your thoughts on the locations of the lights? Our pb redrew the sun shelf light at the back center between the bubblers. This should disperse the light better but will be facing the house. Worried about glare.
 

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What's the depth of your sun shelf? According to my PB, bubblers work best in very shallow water -- think 6" or less. He said he once put one in a 12" shelf and it was "lame." Since we wanted a deeper sun shelf (about 15"), he would have had to raise the bubblers on a pedestal, step, or bench, which didn't really work for us. We ended up going with the omnilogic mini led lights on the sun shelf and swim-out bench, which work great.

I have 2 parascope mini bubblers (no lights) on my 12" deep Baja. They will shoot up over 3' with my Pentair VS 3hp pump running at 2500 rpm. They are installed level with the finish, so we didn't use the parascope pipe at all. At 1400 rpm's they are about bubbling 8" above the water level.
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I think the depth of the shelf is 6". We decided to go with the mini LEDs instead of the lighted bubblers.

What are your thoughts on the locations of the lights? Our pb redrew the sun shelf light at the back center between the bubblers. This should disperse the light better but will be facing the house. Worried about glare.

Position of the lights look good to me. The mini LED on the sun shelf won't be pointed directly at the house, so it shouldn't cause that much of a glare ... they really don't put out that much light. Only time I notice mine is when the water is low and it catches some reflections.

I have 2 parascope mini bubblers (no lights) on my 12" deep Baja. They will shoot up over 3' with my Pentair VS 3hp pump running at 2500 rpm. They are installed level with the finish, so we didn't use the parascope pipe at all. At 1400 rpm's they are about bubbling 8" above the water level.

Good to know. So it sounds like they could have worked even on my 15" deep baja ... might have been an issue with my setup (bubblers + waterslide could be too much for my filter pump and would have needed to add another pump) or just my PB being overly cautious.

Nice pool you've got there, BTW.
 
Not sure how much installed prices are but the units themselves are less than most LED laminar deck jets in comparison:

Pentair - ColorVision LED Bubbler with GloBrite LED Lights

Installed pricing will vary a LOT depending on your location. I'm in the mid-altantic area, which is expensive, and install price on two tanning deck bubblers was quoted around 2k (including the plumbing runs). That price wasn't for LED bubblers just normal bubblers so add the price delta between a normal bubbler and a LED bubbler and if an electric run is necessary that will cost more as well.
 
Not sure how much installed prices are but the units themselves are less than most LED laminar deck jets in comparison:

Pentair - ColorVision LED Bubbler with GloBrite LED Lights

Installed pricing will vary a LOT depending on your location. I'm in the mid-altantic area, which is expensive, and install price on two tanning deck bubblers was quoted around 2k (including the plumbing runs). That price wasn't for LED bubblers just normal bubblers so add the price delta between a normal bubbler and a LED bubbler and if an electric run is necessary that will cost more as well.

2 k for some plumbing and 2 bubblers! I'd call that highway robbery (edit on a new Build but this is a Reno :p) Our 2 ran about 200 total. Had we gone LED it around 1200.
 
Not sure how much installed prices are but the units themselves are less than most LED laminar deck jets in comparison:

Pentair - ColorVision LED Bubbler with GloBrite LED Lights

Installed pricing will vary a LOT depending on your location. I'm in the mid-altantic area, which is expensive, and install price on two tanning deck bubblers was quoted around 2k (including the plumbing runs). That price wasn't for LED bubblers just normal bubblers so add the price delta between a normal bubbler and a LED bubbler and if an electric run is necessary that will cost more as well.

I agree that is pretty high for our area. I was able to get my potential PB to throw in 2 bubblers for free (non lighted) in our build sheet which he valued at 750-1000. The other quotes were in the 1000-1500 range for similar from the other builders. Lighted using the pentair colorvision they wanted 2000 or so.

Edit: Just realized that is likely retrofit pricing for you, not a new build, correct? That could explain the difference.
 
I agree that is pretty high for our area. I was able to get my potential PB to throw in 2 bubblers for free (non lighted) in our build sheet which he valued at 750-1000. The other quotes were in the 1000-1500 range for similar from the other builders. Lighted using the pentair colorvision they wanted 2000 or so.

Edit: Just realized that is likely retrofit pricing for you, not a new build, correct? That could explain the difference.

Yes those are renovation prices not new pool build.
 
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