Intelliflo VSF setup

[martink]

Hi, I have an intelliflo VSF 3hp pump with a separate constant water feature pump that run as needed to run the water feature. I have pantair 420 cartridge filter with inline tab chlorintor and pentair gas heater. I also have a spa with spillway in the pool and a water feature on the side that has a separate pump that i run as needed with no schedule.

I was playing around with screenlogic config on phone and accidently deleted all the pump speed setting that was configured by the installer. I was surprised how easy it is to reset the pump speeds on the app. The only speed I remember is the pool speed, pool high speed and freeze protection. I remember there was more settings on this page but I can't remember them all.

I need help configuring my pump to run efficiently. The pool run for 9 hours a day at 2680 rpm which consumes about 1.2kw. I also need help with other setting on the pump to run the spa, blower, heater and spillway as I have the spillway as a separate feature in the app that can he activated by itself. I attached pictures with the current settings I have.

Is it better to keep it on VS or change it to VSf to control flow not speed?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks

 

[ajw22]

Is it better to keep it on VS or change it to VSf to control flow not speed?

What specific model number Intelliflo pump do you have?

Managing the pump speeds with RPM works better then flow. Using flow can mask other problems you should be looking into like a filter that is clogging.

Below are my VSF 011056 pump settings. I think you just have to pick speeds that seem good and then adjust them for your pool until they work the way you need.

 

[martink]

I have 011056 as well. 1600 rpm does not operate the spa spillway with all the other return jets. Do I need to the spillway operational when pumps are running? I am trying to determine the best speed to run the pumps without hurting the pool circulation and to make sure the rainbow chlorinator is working as well.

 

[ajw22]

I have 011056 as well. 1600 rpm does not operate the spa spillway with all the other return jets. Do I need to the spillway operational when pumps are running? I am trying to determine the best speed to run the pumps without hurting the pool circulation and to make sure the rainbow chlorinator is working as well.

Up the RPMS 100 at a time until your spillway works the way you want.

No one can tell you the numbers for your pool.

Some trial and error and you will figure it out.

 

[martink]

Thanks for your reply. I chnaged the pump to 2350RPM, looking at the pump curve at 40 ft of head, that would be around 50 GPM. demand dropped from 1.2kw to 0.78. 50 GPM would turn my pool over 1.5 times in 9 hours. I will verify if the TAB chlorinator is working at this speed as well.

Is there a way to verify the pump GPM from screen logic or pump display?

 

[Ahultin]

You mentioned the spillway does not operate at lower rpms with the other returns, Does your spillway run all of the time via a make-up valve or are you using the spillway feature and scheduling it a couple times a day?

 

[martink]

The spillway is always running when I am circulating the pool, it will not work at lower RPM with the return jets. But I can run the spillway feature by itself from screenlogic without the return jets and it has a seprate RPM setting. there are automated valves that control all this at the pump

 

[Ahultin]

The spillway is always running when I am circulating the pool, it will not work at lower RPM with the return jets. But I can run the spillway feature by itself from screenlogic without the return jets and it has a seprate RPM setting. there are automated valves that control all this at the pump

Since you said I'm the initial post yu are trying to run more efficiently, I'll throw this out there.
The spillway with make up valve is requiring you to run at a higher than otherwise needed rpm. Mine was initially setup this way as well. I replaced the check valve in the make up line with a diverter so I could keep it closed. The diverter ,assuming the check is a rebuildable jandy style, fits in place of the check assembly. This allows me to run my sf pump 24hours at @1100 rpm /26gpm which uses @80 watts. I then have spillway scheduled for 2x per day, 30 minutes each. My spa is roughly 900 gallons so this puts about 2x freshly chlorinated water daily.

 

[ajw22]

50 GPM would turn my pool over 1.5 times in 9 hours.

Turnover is meaningless. You don't need any pool turnover.

Turnover of Pool Water - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Is there a way to verify the pump GPM from screen logic or pump display?

The Intellicenter displays GPM for a VSF pump. I don't know if Screenlogic does. @Jimrahbe ?

You can see GPM on the pump display if you put the EasyTouch in Service Mode and run the pump from it's control panel at that RPM.

 

[martink]

Thanks Ahultin. I still don't fully understand how the valves work to divert the water to the spillway only without the return jets, I attached a picture of my equipment. Any advice on how to adjust pump speed and spillway will be appreciated

 

[martink]

Turnover is meaningless. You don't need any pool turnover.

Turnover of Pool Water - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

The Intellicenter displays GPM for a VSF pump. I don't know if Screenlogic does. @Jimrahbe ?

You can see GPM on the pump display if you put the EasyTouch in Servcie Mode and run the pump from it's control panel at that RPM.

I have an intellicenter but I was not successful getting the pump gpm. I can only see RPM and Power

 

[Jimrahbe]

Mar,

Your "spillway" function is just a waste of time, as the idiot that plumbed your pool did not add a valve to shut off constant spillover when in the Pool mode.

Do you want a constant spillover or not? If not, let me know and I'll tell you how to fix it.

I am not a big fan of running GPM as there is just never a need for it. You just adjust your RPM to where things work and you are done. That said, your system should be able to display GPM or RPM. What you can't do, or at least it is not recommended on the EasyTouch, is to mix GPM and RPM, as that can confuse the system. Either use all GPM or all RPM.

If you are trying to "turnover" your pool water X times a day, you are trying to make a myth come true. Run your pump for a real reason, not because of some pool store myth.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Jimrahbe]

I have an intellicenter but I was not successful getting the pump gpm. I can only see RPM and Power

Mar,

If you have ScreenLogic, you can't have an IntelliCenter... Show us a pic of the front panel of your automaton.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[ajw22]

I have an intellicenter but I was not successful getting the pump gpm. I can only see RPM and Power

Or press STATUS on the touch screen display.

 

[martink]

Mar,

If you have ScreenLogic, you can't have an IntelliCenter... Show us a pic of the front panel of your automaton.

Thanks,

Jim R.

My bad, I have Easytouch

 

[Ahultin]

Looks like this leg of your manifold is what has spa spillover running all the time.
When you select spillover in Screenlogic, the easytouch leaves the suction actuator on pool and switches the return actuator to spa sending all of the return water to the spa.

it appears to be a pentair check valve, if you wanted to not have spa spillover running constant and therefore be able to run the vsf pump at a lower speed, you could pickup a pentair 2 way and swap the "guts" to disable the constant spillover. Then program spillway in screenlogic for a couple times a day.

 

[ajw22]

You can see GPM on the pump display if you put the EasyTouch in Service Mode and run the pump from it's control panel at that RPM.

 

[Jimrahbe]

Mar,

Ahultin is spot on about why you have a constant spillover in the pool mode.

The line in the red circle should have had a Jandy valve as well as the check valve, so that you could adjust the amount of constant spillover or to just shut it off all together.

If you want to just use the the Spillway function in the EasyTouch, you can just remove the guts of the check valve and install the guts of a Jandy diverter valve and just turn it off.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[martink]

You can see GPM on the pump display if you put the EasyTouch in Service Mode and run the pump from it's control panel at that RPM.

Thanks for the info. So if not using turnover and GPM to adjust speed, what is the best way to adjust pump speed. I run the pump from 9 to 6 every day

 

[ajw22]

Thanks for the info. So if not using turnover and GPM to adjust speed, what is the best way to adjust pump speed. I run the pump from 9 to 6 every day

You adjust the speeds for things to work correctly on your pool:

• Spillover
• Chlorinator
• Heater
• Skimming

Whatever speeds you need for things to work correctly for whatever time you need.