Hot tub moving - is this idea good bad or ugly?

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So I am moving a hot tub long distance on Sat. We will have help at the pick up spot and will be putting it on a trailer. It will be covered in a tarp wrapped in shrink wrap and of course strapped down to the trailer with multiple straps.

At home is where I have to get creative.

Once we arrive the only help I will have is myself, my friend going on the trip with me, my son, my wife, and my daughter (the last 3 will be helpful but not super strong heck neither are me and my friend but we will give it go).

I have spent the last 3 days watching videos, googling around and trying to come up with the best way to get this job done.

Location is as follows. Yard is sloped in front not bad but some slope. Once at the top of the driveway it will be basically flat through the double gate and across the backyard to the deck. Deck is 21" off the ground so not much.

I have 2 thoughts:

**Hot Tub is a Nordic Encore LS weighs 585lbs dry which of course it will not be 100% dry since it will have been recently drained**

1 - Spend about $180 for a 4x8 sheet of PVC board, exercise mat, rope, and (2) 4x8 sheets of OSB cut in half. This will make a slider that we pull/push up the yard and through the gate to the deck. Getting up the 21" incline to the deck may be tricky but probably doable nonetheless. Tub would of course be pushed through the yard on its side.

2 - Move the tub from the trailer to the bed of the truck on its side. This will be tricky for sure as the tailgate height is about 36" so the 5 of us have to unload, turn it on its side and then lift it up 36" to the tailgate or turn it on its side and then do the end over end roll to hopefully roll lift it up on the tailgate. I think the later method maybe the way we have to do it. Once on the truck bed I can slowly back up the driveway and through the double gate across the yard and to the deck. From there I should be able to get very close to the top step of the deck certainly enough to use the 2x12s and slide the tub down from the truck to the deck and then into the screened porch (door opening is 36x90 - tub is 35x84 so yeah not a lot of leeway but should be enough).

I am thinking option 2 is the best with the caveat that getting the tub in the back of the truck will not be easy.

If I thought it would be safe to transport a 7 foot tall hot tub vertically in the bed of the truck 400 miles I would do so as we have more help available there than here at home so loading into the back of the truck there would be easier.

Anyway I am open to any suggestions/comments/thoughts anyone has.

And no a professional mover is out of the question as I have gotten 3 quotes already $2200, $1700, and one at $1500 (the last one would only bring it to Raleigh NC from SC and I would have to get it from there - dumb).
 
multiple pvc pipe on the ground and the hot tub on its side( Please do not put it on its side as I found out in a post later in the thread..) and 2 people can move it anywhere in the world.. My nephew and me moved my 3500 pound generator on 2 pieces of 1/2 inch metal conduit about 5 feet like this :)


Or a furniture mover or 2 from harbor freight..
 
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multiple pvc pipe on the ground and the hot tub on its side and 2 people can move it anywhere in the world.. My nephew and me moved my 3500 pound generator on 2 pieces of 1/2 inch metal conduit about 5 feet like this :)


Or a furniture mover or 2 from harbor freight..

I have thought about those ideas as well.

Furniture movers I would be afraid getting stuck in the yard but I guess I could get some plywood (cheaper OSB) and lay it down in a path and it would roll ok

PVC pipe yes seen that too and yeah I guess that would work as well but still concerned about the hill. Its not a big incline but enough that if the tub starts rolling back we probably aren't stopping it. Good news is we probably only have to go about 20 yards to get to flat level ground.
 
@RDspaguy may have thoughts about your plan.
Yes I do...
First and foremost, unless you want a trip to the hospital, do not even try to cartwheel (end over end) that spa onto a truck, or anything else. It's a bad idea to even do so on the ground and may damage your cabinet.
Sliders are fine, I use a scrap of carpet with the fuzzy side down and it slides pretty easy on grass.
Getting it on the deck should be done with it landing on it's bottom, not it's side. So again, no cartwheel! Stand it, spin it, lay it down.
Pvc is wonderful as slider rails, like train tracks, as well as rollers. Even better than rollers as you can move it farther before needing to switch out rollers. I use 2" pvc. This is how you will spin it to set it on the deck. Stand it up on pvc and it will be easy to swing around.
The furniture carts will be problematic on any surface not paved.
Sliding it down a 2x anything ramp will be a catastrophe. Don't even try.
Do not put it on it's side in a trailer or truck bed. I can introduce you to a guy with as much metal as bone in his spine from doing just that. That spa is heavy enough to fold you in half if it falls, and it is not stable on it's side. Never be under it when lifting or on it's side. If sliding on it's side have people on both sides to stabilize it, but they should be prepared to jump away if it starts to teeter. Spas can be fixed or replaced, but people are more problematic. Safety first at all times! (From the guy with pinched nerves and herneated disks).
The trick to moving a spa it to not pick it up. You lift one side to tilt it up, and reverse to lower it slowly. Going up on the deck you put the spa as far away as the deck is high and once lowered to where it touches the deck you push, not lift, it up on the deck. The bottom will want to kick back away from the deck, so push toward the deck, gravity will lift it as the other end falls over the teeter point that is the deck edge.
I cannot stress enough how dangerous a spa is on it's side if you don't know what you are doing, or even if you do. So if you are going to do this, be safe at all times, take no chances, and have plenty of strong hands. And remember that no toy (which is all a spa is) is worth a lifetime of pain. Be safe.
 
And have a clear GTFO spot/direction planned at all times and stages. Hopefully it all goes smoothly but if it doesn’t you may only have a second to react.
 
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Yes I do...
First and foremost, unless you want a trip to the hospital, do not even try to cartwheel (end over end) that spa onto a truck, or anything else. It's a bad idea to even do so on the ground and may damage your cabinet.
Sliders are fine, I use a scrap of carpet with the fuzzy side down and it slides pretty easy on grass.
Getting it on the deck should be done with it landing on it's bottom, not it's side. So again, no cartwheel! Stand it, spin it, lay it down.
Pvc is wonderful as slider rails, like train tracks, as well as rollers. Even better than rollers as you can move it farther before needing to switch out rollers. I use 2" pvc. This is how you will spin it to set it on the deck. Stand it up on pvc and it will be easy to swing around.
The furniture carts will be problematic on any surface not paved.
Sliding it down a 2x anything ramp will be a catastrophe. Don't even try.
Do not put it on it's side in a trailer or truck bed. I can introduce you to a guy with as much metal as bone in his spine from doing just that. That spa is heavy enough to fold you in half if it falls, and it is not stable on it's side. Never be under it when lifting or on it's side. If sliding on it's side have people on both sides to stabilize it, but they should be prepared to jump away if it starts to teeter. Spas can be fixed or replaced, but people are more problematic. Safety first at all times! (From the guy with pinched nerves and herneated disks).
The trick to moving a spa it to not pick it up. You lift one side to tilt it up, and reverse to lower it slowly. Going up on the deck you put the spa as far away as the deck is high and once lowered to where it touches the deck you push, not lift, it up on the deck. The bottom will want to kick back away from the deck, so push toward the deck, gravity will lift it as the other end falls over the teeter point that is the deck edge.
I cannot stress enough how dangerous a spa is on it's side if you don't know what you are doing, or even if you do. So if you are going to do this, be safe at all times, take no chances, and have plenty of strong hands. And remember that no toy (which is all a spa is) is worth a lifetime of pain. Be safe.

Ok thanks for that and the moving it on PVC pipe "train rails" actually makes a lot of sense and can be done for a big part of the move just need to get a bunch of 2" PVC pipe.

Is 2 pieces of pipe under the tub each slide good enough or should it be 3? And yeah I know I will need at least double so that it has a section to push on to and then grab the ones behind it to move in front etc.

Up on the deck/porch (it is all enclosed) can only be done one way - on its side. It has to go through a doorway (36" wide but 90" high) It will need to go up a 21" incline (3 small steps) and then go 4 feet through the door opening to the actual porch area where it will be staying. With that being said this means the tub has to go from flat to vertical once and then vertical to flat to be put in place, there are no other options.

I can lay plywood down on the steps and use a rug as you mentioned (done the rug thing many many times) to try and push it up the steps or if you think laying the pipe down is better we can do that instead.

So unfortunately I do not have an ideal move in situation i.e. a big wide open spot to bring it in on its bottom.
 
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need to get a bunch of 2" PVC pipe.
(4) 10ft pieces are all you need. As you clear one set of rails, move them in front then push, and so on.

Up on the deck/porch (it is all enclosed) can only be done one way - on its side.
That's where you will be most likely to hurt someone and damage your spa.
A pro would have it on a special cart with tires that can go over gras, gravel, etc. They would ramp it up the steps, but the cart would keep most of the weight off of the ramp, since it's wheel base is longer than the spa and the front wheels would be on the deck before the rears hit the ramp. Then it would bottom out halfway in and the back must be lifted, while on the steps/ramp, to get it through. I used to carry a piece of angle iron to protect the top step. You need 3 strong men to deliver on a deck. Much higher than yours is and it becomes a crane job.
Old school, this is where you cartwheel, but you need more and stronger men for that than a ramp. And if things go bad you can add deck repair to your list of problems, once the medical issues are sorted out.
Are you sure there are no spa movers near you to come out? A local move is $300-$500 in most places. Should be less if it's already there. Even some furniture movers might be ok. They are usually big strong guys. Anything like that? I would hate to see someone get hurt, and your description of the moving crew does not inspire confidence.
 
I agree with PVC pipes. I've moved my hot tub easily with 3.5 inch (or so) PVC pipe.

Also, this style of car jack can be really useful lift the hot tub for the first 12 inch or so (or lower). That is the hardest part. Also, when tipping or untiring from its side, try to make sure the pump area is opposite the side your lifting.


I have used mover too. They are GREAT and are about $400 my area.
 
(4) 10ft pieces are all you need. As you clear one set of rails, move them in front then push, and so on.


That's where you will be most likely to hurt someone and damage your spa.
A pro would have it on a special cart with tires that can go over gras, gravel, etc. They would ramp it up the steps, but the cart would keep most of the weight off of the ramp, since it's wheel base is longer than the spa and the front wheels would be on the deck before the rears hit the ramp. Then it would bottom out halfway in and the back must be lifted, while on the steps/ramp, to get it through. I used to carry a piece of angle iron to protect the top step. You need 3 strong men to deliver on a deck. Much higher than yours is and it becomes a crane job.
Old school, this is where you cartwheel, but you need more and stronger men for that than a ramp. And if things go bad you can add deck repair to your list of problems, once the medical issues are sorted out.
Are you sure there are no spa movers near you to come out? A local move is $300-$500 in most places. Should be less if it's already there. Even some furniture movers might be ok. They are usually big strong guys. Anything like that? I would hate to see someone get hurt, and your description of the moving crew does not inspire confidence.

I will look into it and see what I can find but most wanted 500-600 to come out regardless of the type of move - seems they are all busy. Or worse they want $300 and we have to supply the manpower which makes no sense.

This was the case a week ago when I was looking locally. As you said it should be about 1/2 a normal move (ie go there get it and bring it my house etc)
 

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Here is my take on going up those stairs on to the deck, not for everyone and make sure you had your wheaties for breakfast. Last time I did this, all by myself (which is how I've done things all my life, on my own) I had one level of steps to the deck about 7-8 steps if I remember right. Strap a refrigerator dolly to one side, then lay the tub down onto the dolly Dolly on bottom, tub on edge, then use a come along to pull it up the stairs, if you have a couple people they can steady it as it is going up the stairs.
NOT FOR EVERYONE.. but it does work.. Be carefull, and keep safety in mind and have an escape route
 
Here is my take on going up those stairs on to the deck, not for everyone and make sure you had your wheaties for breakfast. Last time I did this, all by myself (which is how I've done things all my life, on my own) I had one level of steps to the deck about 7-8 steps if I remember right. Strap a refrigerator dolly to one side, then lay the tub down onto the dolly Dolly on bottom, tub on edge, then use a come along to pull it up the stairs, if you have a couple people they can steady it as it is going up the stairs.
NOT FOR EVERYONE.. but it does work.. Be carefull, and keep safety in mind and have an escape route
Understood but I only have to come up 21" off of ground level i.e. where the tub would be after moving to backyard.
 
See pics. Tub goes in that back left corner
 

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Can you leave the wall open.. Move the tub right up to the side, prop it up and set it down on the deck and slide it over... Just take one side of the 2x4's out and slide it in, then finish the wall..

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Another option I don't know if you've considered is to move the hot tub to your house and then hire a crane? Sounds expensive but when I bought my hot tub the dealer recommended a private crane operator (I found his company on Yelp and the listed public prices were the same as what the dealer told me the charges would be) and it was only $300. I could have tried to remove a gate and put it back up to get my hot tub in but for $300 I decided to avoid the trouble.

It was quick and easy and it was awesome seeing that crane lift and gently lower my tub perfectly into place.
 
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Another option I don't know if you've considered is to move the hot tub to your house and then hire a crane? Sounds expensive but when I bought my hot tub the dealer recommended a private crane operator (I found his company on Yelp and the listed public prices were the same as what the dealer told me the charges would be) and it was only $300. I could have tried to remove a gate and put it back up to get my hot tub in but for $300 I decided to avoid the trouble.

It was quick and easy and it was awesome seeing that crane lift and gently lower my tub perfectly into place.
But he has a roof on that porch....
 

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