Hayward Super Pump xe and freeze protect

[Lefebvrea090428]

The original pump on my pool was set on a timer and was a single speed pump that had a freeze protection switch. The previous owner put a super pump xe on. Now since the pumps power is always on with the “timer” , switch is still in place but always left on, since the pump has the built in program. How do I wire the freeze protection switch into the super pump xe?

Prior, the freeze protection switch just over rid the timer switch and would turn on the pump no matter the time of the temp was cold enough.

Might have just figured it out, please let me know if my thinking is correct or if there is another way to do it. My power timer is an Intermatic. Currently it is just always on but as detailed below I think I might have to have it cycling. Even though it is not really doing much other than setting the program time.

Here is my thought.

Would like to not mess up my program start times if possible. But this might be the only way with this pump. Do I just have the power timer set to go on at the desired pump program start time and then off at or just after the set pump program end time? Then if the frost switch kicks it on the pump will start up and run the programmed program like it is being programmed to start at that time, until the temp warms and the frost switch kicks it off. Then the power timer will reset the program back to the desired start time with the power on command? Granted this could cause issues for a few days at a time because normally my pump comes on at 8am. It Might not have warmed up enough by that time to have the frost switch off before the power timer kicks back on. I Could move the start time for winters to a noon start to help keep the program more normal possibly.

 

[ajw22]

Just run your pump 24/7 during the winter and you don’t need to worry about freeze protection.

Set your pump to run around 1200 RPM or so during what would have been the OFF times. Electrical usage should be minimal.

 

[1poolman1]

The original pump on my pool was set on a timer and was a single speed pump that had a freeze protection switch. The previous owner put a super pump xe on. Now since the pumps power is always on with the “timer” , switch is still in place but always left on, since the pump has the built in program. How do I wire the freeze protection switch into the super pump xe?

Prior, the freeze protection switch just over rid the timer switch and would turn on the pump no matter the time of the temp was cold enough.

Might have just figured it out, please let me know if my thinking is correct or if there is another way to do it. My power timer is an Intermatic. Currently it is just always on but as detailed below I think I might have to have it cycling. Even though it is not really doing much other than setting the program time.

Here is my thought.

Would like to not mess up my program start times if possible. But this might be the only way with this pump. Do I just have the power timer set to go on at the desired pump program start time and then off at or just after the set pump program end time? Then if the frost switch kicks it on the pump will start up and run the programmed program like it is being programmed to start at that time, until the temp warms and the frost switch kicks it off. Then the power timer will reset the program back to the desired start time with the power on command? Granted this could cause issues for a few days at a time because normally my pump comes on at 8am. It Might not have warmed up enough by that time to have the frost switch off before the power timer kicks back on. I Could move the start time for winters to a noon start to help keep the program more normal possibly.

Safest way is as ajw22 said, just run it 24/7 while there is chance of freeze. If you don't want to do that, re-install the trippers to the time clock, set the timer to power the pump on at 2:00AM and have the internal program just run its normal course, as long as it will run at least until 8 or 9:00AM. Let the timer turn off around 1:00AM and start the cycle over at 2:00AM. You may never want to change that setting as long as you have the pool.
Even with built-in freeze protection, that's the way I have been running my VSP for many years (actually until 4:30PM) and have never had to worry when we have temps below freezing (yeah, it happens in Sacramento from time to time).