Hayward ColorLogic Light Removal

Jun 28, 2017
6
Westminster
Hello All!

I have a 12V Hayward ColorLogic light installed in 2017 that just stopped working. I just tested the transformer, and it's still delivering 14VAC, so no issues there. I went to remove the light yesterday to see if it is serviceable, and expected to see a screw holding it in the niche when I removed the face plate. Instead I saw what is shown in the pictures below, and the thing does not budge when I do anything. I don't know what model light is installed, but I have a leftover part from the install indicating an SP0800A niche. Do I just need to pry harder, maybe with a putty knife, to loosen the light to get it out?


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Thanks! Not sure why I couldn't find that...

I'll give it a shot tomorrow. It is a bit confusing that the niche model code in those instructions are so different from the code I found on material (niche cover or something?) left over from the construction.

As for the size, I measured the ID of the trim ring at just under 7".

I'm hoping this will be serviceable enough for me to hijack the housing and replace the LEDs with my own, similar to what The Hook Up did in this video. What I've found for ColorLogic online is inconsistent. I've seen some that look to be totally sealed, but at least one account from about 10 years ago showing a serviceable housing.
 
Hayward has used the ColorLogic label across many different products. That has made it very confusing to figure out the correct maintenance and parts. You have to cycle through the different model ColorLogic manuals until you find the right match.
 
That did the trick, thank you for the info! Now I have the light out, and I think I can get it open, but I'm not overly optimistic about how reliably it can be sealed again. I don't see a significant amount of water in it, but I'm still guessing moisture caused the failure, and the all plastic housing doesn't seem to have a good way to ensure a seal. Once I get it open I'll have to decide if I want to try to replace the guts. The model of the light is LPCUS11100.

For another route - Is there a good resource to figure out if anything else will fit the niche I have installed (looks identical to the LFGUY1000 above), or am I forever tied to $1000 Hayward non-serviceable replacements? I'd spring for an expensive replacement a lot easier if it was one that had a chance of being fixed after most common failures. It looked like the Pentair light in the linked video above would have been a much better choice for a fresh install...
 
None of the pool LED lights are out long enough to have long term reliability reports. And manufacturers are coming out with new generations of LED lights to fix the flaws in prior products. So it is impossible to say how long something may last beyond its warranty period.
 
None of the pool LED lights are out long enough to have long term reliability reports. And manufacturers are coming out with new generations of LED lights to fix the flaws in prior products. So it is impossible to say how long something may last beyond its warranty period.
So in short - I guess I'm stuck with the $1k non-serviceable Hayward option.

I'll be sure to at least post pictures of the inside of the light if I get it apart.

Thanks again for the help!
 
Call these folks and see what they have for you…

 
I’m curious how this is going? I’m in process of SLAM and wanted to check around the lights. I have 2 of the Universal Colorlogics. I was able to remove trim piece off the one in shallow end had algae and gunk behind it. I didn’t go any further as I couldn’t get light out the rest of the way. I couldn’t even get trim piece off on one in deep end.
 
I let the light sit out for a while and it magically started working again. Since I wasn't able to get it open easily, I decided to reinstall it and see how long it would last. The answer was about 2 weeks. Now it's dead again. I may try pulling it out and getting it open at all cost, since it is broken anyway. If I do that and have any success, I'll be sure to post that. Otherwise, I guess I'm shelling out the cash for a replacement. The Florida SunSeeker folks don't seem to have any options for me either, which I'm guessing is not a good sign.

@Mattou01 - If you want to get the light out of the niche, the instructions ajw22 posted above worked for me. There's a little locking mechanism that you can easily unlock with the screwdriver through the pictured hole near the top. After that, you should be able to rotate 1/4-1/8 turn and pull it out.
 
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