Float Fill Valves - Pentair T29 and Fluidmaster are the same

Dec 4, 2009
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Since Fluidmaster stopped making their pool auto-fill valves I've been looking for a replacement. I thought I'd found it in the Pentair T29 valve. People on Amazon also think so, but you'll find about half are unhappy to find the valves don't seem to work the way they should. I bought one locally at Leslie's Pools so I could examine it before putting it in service. The nipple was not blocked and when in service had water come out of it - it was not blocked the way the old Fluidmaster was. (I still have one of the old ones, but it's non-functioning.)

There's a perfectly valid reason for this - the Pentair T29 and the current Fluidmaster are both the same - water comes out of the "toilet bowl refill nipple and hose."

Thinking Pentair was a victim of Amazon counterfeiting I took the issue directly to Pentair and asked customer service to tell me whether the water should or should not come out of the nipple in a genuine Pentair T29. Here is the response:
We use the exact same Fluidmaster valve that you buy at the hardware store. No different in operation or performance so, yes, we discharge water through the top nipple just the same as for your toilet.
Regards,
Scott Douglas
Technical Support Representative
Pentair Water Quality Systems

Okay, then, so the $25 Pentair T29 holds no advantage over the $8 Fluidmaster. Fluidmaster customer service advises the nipple should be plugged in poll auto-filler in order to prevent pool water siphoning back into your water supply. He went on to suggest the easiest way to block the Fluidmaster nipple is to attach the refill hose to the nipple, bend it back and clamp it. Before I do that, though, I think I'll explore the possibility of finding a screw that will just fit, then gluing the screw in with glue that will work underwater with plastic and metal.
 
If you have a backflow preventer / valve before the auto-fill (like is required), then water can't flow back through the nipple into the fresh water supply.
I do not. As I understand it these are only required for new construction and I and others have been grandfathered to the older standard. The blocked nipple is required under those circumstances.
 
I would find it a little hard to believe that the backflow prevention would be a newer requirement, but maybe you are correct.

Are they required on irrigation supply lines there?
 
I would find it a little hard to believe that the backflow prevention would be a newer requirement, but maybe you are correct.

Are they required on irrigation supply lines there?
Edited: Yes they are. I don't know whether one is installed on my irrigation system; I do know there was no Pressure Reduction Valve on it until I put it on, lowering pressure from 138 psi to 80 psi.
 
I suspect you're right about the anti-backflow requirements being older than my pool; it was presented to me that way, but perhaps that was politeness when I bought the house. I know now that my pool builder uses less re-bar in construction than other builder, so it's not a stretch that they would ignore the anti-backflow requirement. I doubt that I'm the only one in this position; I will have the proper equipment installed.
 
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