Expert in Cordless Pool Cleaning Robots – Tips & Recommendations for Purchase and Discussion

Michael z

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Nov 21, 2024
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Hello everyone, I am a professional in the swimming pool robot industry.

I have purchased robots from various brands for research, including Aiper S1 Pro, Wybot s2, Beatbot Aquasense PRO, as well as some smaller brands like Lydsto, Smorobot, Poolpure Aquaguard, etc.

In my daily work, I spend a significant amount of time comparing the data parameters of different robots and dismantling models from brands like Beatbot, Wybot, Aiper, and others. I also test robots from different brands in various pool environments, including green pools, to observe how they perform in real-world conditions.

Additionally, I’ve compiled some knowledge and insights about using swimming pool robots, which I’d like to share today.

If you are considering purchasing a swimming pool robot, feel free to tell me about your pool’s characteristics, such as:

  • Outdoor or indoor pool
  • Does the pool have stairs or steps?
  • Is there a lot of fine sand,dirt to clean or big leaves to clean?
Based on your specific situation, I can offer recommendations to help you choose the most suitable pool robot.

Looking forward to discussing and sharing experiences with everyone!
 
Hello everyone, I am a professional in the swimming pool robot industry.

I have purchased robots from various brands for research, including Aiper S1 Pro, Wybot s2, Beatbot Aquasense PRO, as well as some smaller brands like Lydsto, Smorobot, Poolpure Aquaguard, etc.

In my daily work, I spend a significant amount of time comparing the data parameters of different robots and dismantling models from brands like Beatbot, Wybot, Aiper, and others. I also test robots from different brands in various pool environments, including green pools, to observe how they perform in real-world conditions.

Additionally, I’ve compiled some knowledge and insights about using swimming pool robots, which I’d like to share today.

If you are considering purchasing a swimming pool robot, feel free to tell me about your pool’s characteristics, such as:

  • Outdoor or indoor pool
  • Does the pool have stairs or steps?
  • Is there a lot of fine sand,dirt to clean or big leaves to clean?
Based on your specific situation, I can offer recommendations to help you choose the most suitable pool robot.

Looking forward to discussing and sharing experiences with everyone!
Hello! We have a brand new outdoor screened in 12k gallon pool, 11' X 45' with Pebblesheen, stairs and a 6 foot tanning ledge, and a spa. Its screened in, so no leaves. Looking for cordless that can scrub the walls since one side of the pool has zero ledge to stand and brush. I am looking into the Aiper N1 from Costco because of their return policy and the ability to put it into the spa to clean. I would like to stay under $1500, but am open to all suggestions. Thank you!
 
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Hello! We have a brand new outdoor screened in 12k gallon pool, 11' X 45' with Pebblesheen, stairs and a 6 foot tanning ledge, and a spa. Its screened in, so no leaves. Looking for cordless that can scrub the walls since one side of the pool has zero ledge to stand and brush. I am looking into the Aiper N1 from Costco because of their return policy and the ability to put it into the spa to clean. I would like to stay under $1500, but am open to all suggestions. Thank you!
Aiper N1 is the offline model of Aiper Scuba S1.
It is currently one of the best-selling wireless swimming pool robots.
It's a great choice, first of all, Aiper's warranty is trustworthy.
You should know that all wireless swimming pool robots are at risk of water damage.
But Aiper's warranty is relatively better.
Although they usually send you a refurbished product that has been repaired.
But at least they will definitely provide warranty.
Instead of completely ignoring you.
As for how to avoid water damage to the product, you need to promptly remove it after each use and store it in a cool and dry place.
Try not to use its 7-day automatic mode.

The biggest advantage of AIPER N1/S1 is that it has a filtration speed of 70gpm, which is much higher than the 40+gpm of similar products on the market such as Wybot C1.
This means it will be easier to climb up smooth walls

But it also has its shortcomings, such as the lack of an ultra fine filtering system.
This means that it can only filter leaves, stones, and larger diameter sand.
And soil and smaller diameter sand will pass through the filter.
Currently, robots with ultra fine filters on the market cost over $800.

In addition, its battery is only 112Wh, while the Aiper Seagull Pro launched in 2023, as well as many similar models, are equipped with a 200Wh large battery, which means it can achieve higher coverage and more thorough cleaning.
You should know that the cleaning efficiency of robots with tracks is not high.
Therefore, it greatly requires longer battery life.
Even in terms of cleaning the bottom of the pool, it's not as good as those $100 ones.
This is because their tracks crawl too slowly.
And it also requires spending a lot of time on the wall.
But considering that your pool is 12k gallons, not 40k, the smaller battery is already sufficient for use.

Overall, if you don't mind that it doesn't have an ultra fine filtering system, it's your best choice.
Aiper's appearance, workmanship, and after-sales service are far better than Wybot's.

Considering that you mentioned that anything below $1500 is worth considering, if you want a better experience, you can also wait until May. Aiper has launched a more advanced x1 with an ultra fine filter.
You can also get a good warranty by purchasing through Amazon.
Of course, I personally think that pool robots priced over $600 are too expensive.
And many functions are not needed.
Anyway, I don't want to control the robot through an app, nor do I need it to have too many sensors.
The environment of the swimming pool is very simple.
I don't need a high-level artificial intelligence to waste money.
 
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Hello everyone, I am a professional in the swimming pool robot industry.

I have purchased robots from various brands for research, including Aiper S1 Pro, Wybot s2, Beatbot Aquasense PRO, as well as some smaller brands like Lydsto, Smorobot, Poolpure Aquaguard, etc.

In my daily work, I spend a significant amount of time comparing the data parameters of different robots and dismantling models from brands like Beatbot, Wybot, Aiper, and others. I also test robots from different brands in various pool environments, including green pools, to observe how they perform in real-world conditions.

Additionally, I’ve compiled some knowledge and insights about using swimming pool robots, which I’d like to share today.

If you are considering purchasing a swimming pool robot, feel free to tell me about your pool’s characteristics, such as:

  • Outdoor or indoor pool
  • Does the pool have stairs or steps?
  • Is there a lot of fine sand,dirt to clean or big leaves to clean?
Based on your specific situation, I can offer recommendations to help you choose the most suitable pool robot.

Looking forward to discussing and sharing experiences with everyone!
There are numerous threads on the forum regarding wireless robots - just search by robot title such as Aiper, Beatbot, etc. Members are always asking questions there or providing feedback on performance.
There are also threads on surface robots such as Betta.

One of the biggest frustrations that I have noticed is performance in deep pools where there is a significant slope from deep to shallow end. Many report that the robot can not go up the incline.
Then there is the standard issues regarding performance on walls vs floor and battery life.
 
Hello everyone, I am a professional in the swimming pool robot industry.

I have purchased robots from various brands for research, including Aiper S1 Pro, Wybot s2, Beatbot Aquasense PRO, as well as some smaller brands like Lydsto, Smorobot, Poolpure Aquaguard, etc.

In my daily work, I spend a significant amount of time comparing the data parameters of different robots and dismantling models from brands like Beatbot, Wybot, Aiper, and others. I also test robots from different brands in various pool environments, including green pools, to observe how they perform in real-world conditions.

Additionally, I’ve compiled some knowledge and insights about using swimming pool robots, which I’d like to share today.

If you are considering purchasing a swimming pool robot, feel free to tell me about your pool’s characteristics, such as:

  • Outdoor or indoor pool
  • Does the pool have stairs or steps?
  • Is there a lot of fine sand,dirt to clean or big leaves to clean?
Based on your specific situation, I can offer recommendations to help you choose the most suitable pool robot.

Looking forward to discussing and sharing experiences with everyone!
Once again TFP is fortunate to have a member who is a skilled and kind resource as we navigate the world of robots and pools. Thank you Michael and also founders/leaders of TFP. I have gained so much confidence thru your spirit of sharing!
 
There are numerous threads on the forum regarding wireless robots - just search by robot title such as Aiper, Beatbot, etc. Members are always asking questions there or providing feedback on performance.
There are also threads on surface robots such as Betta.

One of the biggest frustrations that I have noticed is performance in deep pools where there is a significant slope from deep to shallow end. Many report that the robot can not go up the incline.
Then there is the standard issues regarding performance on walls vs floor and battery life.
Robots priced below $200 are driven by water flow. so they cant be used in Slope pools
They can only handle slopes less than 10 degrees.
But in a pool with no slopes, their performance is very good.
Because of their fast movement speed, they can quickly skim over every corner of the pool in a short amount of time.
If you don't consider scrubbing the water line,slope and maybe it getting stuck on the drain, they are a good choice.
When purchasing such robots, just pay attention to their battery capacity: most robots are equipped with a 2600mAh battery, which means they can only run for one hour, even though they are often labeled as 90 minutes.
For example, aiper scuba se, wybot osprey200, etc.
The relatively more expensive models are equipped with 4000-5200mah batteries that can run for 90-100 minutes, such as the Aiper Seagull SE(4000mah), Wybot's OSPF200 Max(5200mah) , and the cheap but also equipped with5000mah large batteries, Poolpure Aquaguard SE.

Robots that can climb walls are driven by independent motors and tracks, and they can almost handle the slopes at the bottom of the swimming pool.
But everyone's pool shape is different, and some robots may have been working in deep water areas due to product path planning issues.
I have encountered similar situations before, try using "floor mode" and "wall mode" separately to work instead of "automatic mode" to resolve . But this situation is relatively rare.

As for the performance on the wall, it is often determined by the power of their main suction motor.
For example, the Wybot C1 uses a 65W motor with a filtration speed of only 45gpm.
And Seagull Pro has a filtration speed of 80gpm.
The greater the suction, the better the performance when climbing walls.
When robots climb walls, they need a huge suction motor to suck themselves up
Additionally, if your pool walls are very smooth or covered with smooth things
All of them will affect the performance of the wall. try robots with higher suction power.

The performance on the pool floor has little to do with suction.
It has been proven that only 30w of power is needed to effectively clean the pool floor.Most robots that can climb walls are equipped with motors ranging from 65W to 120W
The cleaning effect of the bottom of the swimming pool depends on their endurance time and the fineness of the filter screen
Longer battery life brings greater coverage
Finer filter brings better cleaning effect

most robots have a filter screen of 150-200 μ m, which cannot filter silt and fine sand. If the excessive suction is not matched with an ultra fine filter, it may even cause sediment to re spray from the top.
But currently, robots with ultra fine filters are very expensive.

For battery life,
People always don't pay attention to this most important issue before making a purchase.
Batteries account for the largest cost of robots.
And very important
Amazon requires the battery capacity to be labeled in the "features & specs‘’ below each product's purchase page. For example, AIPER SCUBA S1 has a capacity of 112Wh, while Seagull Pro has a capacity of 199Wh.
Wybot C1 has only 99Wh.
A larger battery often represents greater suction or longer running time.

For the full battery life of a product, such as the inability to charge or short running time reported by many people, it is often due to a short circuit caused by water ingress.
Therefore, waterproofing of robots is often overlooked and another most important aspect.

At present, most machines have noticed this and will not be damaged quickly, but they are often difficult to use beyond the warranty period.
Apart from their inadequate waterproof design.
Users also need to pay more attention to placing them in a cool and dry place after each use.
And try not to use the 7-day timer mode as much as possible

If you're really worried, beatbot is the most precise waterproof structure robot product I've ever disassembled - but it's very expensive.
 
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I am looking to replace a 3-year old Dolphin Active 60, and just found out about the new options for cordless pool vac/skimmers.

I have a Betta skimmer on order from Amazon. Looking for a cordless pool vac. I am considering the Aiper X1 ($1099 on Amazon right now), but also considering cancelling the Beta skimmer order and moving up to the Aiper X1 Pro Max or a Beatbot Aquasense Pro. Fine filter is a must due to the dust storms here.

I'm hesitant to spend the $2k as my experience with the Dolphin Active 60 is that I probably won't get more than a few years out of one here in Arizona.

Any thoughts on if these newer 5-in-1 cordless robots would be worth the extra $600-$700 vs. Aiper X1/Betta skimmer combo?
 

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I am looking to replace a 3-year old Dolphin Active 60, and just found out about the new options for cordless pool vac/skimmers.

I have a Betta skimmer on order from Amazon. Looking for a cordless pool vac. I am considering the Aiper X1 ($1099 on Amazon right now), but also considering cancelling the Beta skimmer order and moving up to the Aiper X1 Pro Max or a Beatbot Aquasense Pro. Fine filter is a must due to the dust storms here.

I'm hesitant to spend the $2k as my experience with the Dolphin Active 60 is that I probably won't get more than a few years out of one here in Arizona.

Any thoughts on if these newer 5-in-1 cordless robots would be worth the extra $600-$700 vs. Aiper X1/Betta skimmer combo?
I would keep the Betta skimmer that you have on order. It does a great job. My preference is to not to combine too many technologies in 1 product as they tend to over promise and under perform. Having a separate pool cleaner for pool and walls is my recommendation. In 3-5 years the technology may be better for all in one products.
 
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I would keep the Betta skimmer that you have on order. It does a great job. My preference is to not to combine too many technologies in 1 product as they tend to over promise and under perform. Having a separate pool cleaner for pool and walls is my recommendation. In 3-5 years the technology may be better for all in one products.
Thanks. That was my thinking as well since reviews of the Beatbot seem to suggest it isn't great at skimming. Now the question is, what robot?

The Active 60 has been decent. My issue is that Dolphin doesn't appear to keep up with maintenance parts for their models, so I'm having a hard time repairing it. I also wouldn't mind not dealing with the cord anymore.

Some of the high end robots claim to be able to handle baja steps/shelves, but I was told the same about the Active 60 (sure, it can climb them, but cleaning is a stretch).

Any thoughts on a good cordless bot? Seems you have an Aiper Scuba, so maybe the X1 is worth a try?
 
Thanks. That was my thinking as well since reviews of the Beatbot seem to suggest it isn't great at skimming. Now the question is, what robot?

The Active 60 has been decent. My issue is that Dolphin doesn't appear to keep up with maintenance parts for their models, so I'm having a hard time repairing it. I also wouldn't mind not dealing with the cord anymore.

Some of the high end robots claim to be able to handle baja steps/shelves, but I was told the same about the Active 60 (sure, it can climb them, but cleaning is a stretch).

Any thoughts on a good cordless bot? Seems you have an Aiper Scuba, so maybe the X1 is worth a try?
There are others that have commented that the Betta skimmer can get tangled in the cord of any corded robot. So if you go with a corded robot plan to remove the Betta skimmer while that bot is cleaning the pool.
I put my Polaris 280 away (pressure side cleaner with a hose) and purchased the Betta Skimmer and Aiper Scuba so I can have them in pool at same time. The skimmer bot basically stays in full time unless people are in the pool and the bottom bot cleaner goes in every 2-3 days depending on need.
 
Hello everyone, I am a professional in the swimming pool robot industry.

I have purchased robots from various brands for research, including Aiper S1 Pro, Wybot s2, Beatbot Aquasense PRO, as well as some smaller brands like Lydsto, Smorobot, Poolpure Aquaguard, etc.

In my daily work, I spend a significant amount of time comparing the data parameters of different robots and dismantling models from brands like Beatbot, Wybot, Aiper, and others. I also test robots from different brands in various pool environments, including green pools, to observe how they perform in real-world conditions.

Additionally, I’ve compiled some knowledge and insights about using swimming pool robots, which I’d like to share today.

If you are considering purchasing a swimming pool robot, feel free to tell me about your pool’s characteristics, such as:

  • Outdoor or indoor pool
  • Does the pool have stairs or steps?
  • Is there a lot of fine sand,dirt to clean or big leaves to clean?
Based on your specific situation, I can offer recommendations to help you choose the most suitable pool robot.

Looking forward to discussing and sharing experiences with everyone!
Hello,
I'm wanting to purchase my first robot. I have an outdoor 19.5K gallon gunite saltwater pool with stairs (built in). It's a rectangle pool. It does get big leaves from the scrub oak trees and occasional pine needles. The ground is all sand, although I don't believe it's considered a fine sand. I want something with good suction so it can climb walls as that is where all the algea likes to hang out. I do not want to spend more than $1K, and of course less is better as long as it does quality work. Thank you in advance.
 
Hello,
I'm wanting to purchase my first robot. I have an outdoor 19.5K gallon gunite saltwater pool with stairs (built in). It's a rectangle pool. It does get big leaves from the scrub oak trees and occasional pine needles. The ground is all sand, although I don't believe it's considered a fine sand. I want something with good suction so it can climb walls as that is where all the algea likes to hang out. I do not want to spend more than $1K, and of course less is better as long as it doesn't quality work. Thank you in advance.
Algae is a pool water chemistry issue - not for a cleaner to clear. Agree you still need a good cleaner for your other needs but you may want to start a new thread in the Pool Testing section to discuss what can be done to prevent algae.

Also - welcome to TFP.
Please read
Pool Care Basics and
FC/CYA Levels
 
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I have a 14000 gallon, inground gunite pool. depth is 3ft on each side and a minimal slope to the center which is 6ft. I have 3 steps on one side a bench type step on the opposite side of the pool.

over the past couple of months, my Polaris 280 hasn't been working properly and i am now dealing with a lot of fine dirt that's just settled on the pool floor and sometimes the walls. I recently dropped about $300 to repair the Polaris motor, purchased all new Polaris parts, hoses, back flows, etc., etc. and the unit still not work well. I am done throwing money at the Polaris.

Thinking about the Wycot C1. it's priced right and has good reviews from what I can tell. Thoughts? Or is the Aiper a better option?

Thanks,
 
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I have 9000 gallon free form kidney shaped pool. Looking for cordless robot. I tried c1 pro from WYBOT. It didn’t do that great and broke shortly after. Requirements are getting the whole pool. Ideally climbing steps and not getting stuck on drains.
 
Hello everyone, I am a professional in the swimming pool robot industry.

I have purchased robots from various brands for research, including Aiper S1 Pro, Wybot s2, Beatbot Aquasense PRO, as well as some smaller brands like Lydsto, Smorobot, Poolpure Aquaguard, etc.

In my daily work, I spend a significant amount of time comparing the data parameters of different robots and dismantling models from brands like Beatbot, Wybot, Aiper, and others. I also test robots from different brands in various pool environments, including green pools, to observe how they perform in real-world conditions.

Additionally, I’ve compiled some knowledge and insights about using swimming pool robots, which I’d like to share today.

If you are considering purchasing a swimming pool robot, feel free to tell me about your pool’s characteristics, such as:

  • Outdoor or indoor pool
  • Does the pool have stairs or steps?
  • Is there a lot of fine sand,dirt to clean or big leaves to clean?
Based on your specific situation, I can offer recommendations to help you choose the most suitable pool robot.

Looking forward to discussing and sharing experiences with everyone!
Hi my name is Roderick and I’m new to this pool thing just purchased a home with a pool I know little about cleaning, maintenance, plumbing and vacuuming of the pool butanyways I have a small pool with stairs and a lot off trees so I have plenty of leaves in the pool top and bottom so I need advice on the best vac for the occasion, I will be much appreciated for your help
 
I am looking to replace a 3-year old Dolphin Active 60, and just found out about the new options for cordless pool vac/skimmers.

I have a Betta skimmer on order from Amazon. Looking for a cordless pool vac. I am considering the Aiper X1 ($1099 on Amazon right now), but also considering cancelling the Beta skimmer order and moving up to the Aiper X1 Pro Max or a Beatbot Aquasense Pro. Fine filter is a must due to the dust storms here.

I'm hesitant to spend the $2k as my experience with the Dolphin Active 60 is that I probably won't get more than a few years out of one here in Arizona.

Any thoughts on if these newer 5-in-1 cordless robots would be worth the extra $600-$700 vs. Aiper X1/Betta skimmer combo?
I am looking to replace a 3-year old Dolphin Active 60, and just found out about the new options for cordless pool vac/skimmers.

I have a Betta skimmer on order from Amazon. Looking for a cordless pool vac. I am considering the Aiper X1 ($1099 on Amazon right now), but also considering cancelling the Beta skimmer order and moving up to the Aiper X1 Pro Max or a Beatbot Aquasense Pro. Fine filter is a must due to the dust storms here.

I'm hesitant to spend the $2k as my experience with the Dolphin Active 60 is that I probably won't get more than a few years out of one here in Arizona.

Any thoughts on if these newer 5-in-1 cordless robots would be worth the extra $600-$700 vs. Aiper X1/Betta skimmer combo?
Due to the short release time of AIPER X1, I have not actually used it, but I have Aquasense Pro.
Its advantage(beatbot) is that it is made with great precision and has a seemingly strong waterproof performance.
And there is a 3-year warranty,Although it hasn't been three years since its birth yet
, but the 3-year warranty at least proves their team's confidence in quality.
Its internal structure is very complex and has a completely different internal structure design from other robots, using a large amount of epoxy resin and other sealing methods.
And in some motors, fully waterproof motors that can even operate in a submerged state are used.
But the downside is that its proud or costly "map drawing" feature is not very user-friendly, which means a significant portion of the $2000 may have been wasted.
And for the 5-in-1 robot, trust me, it's definitely not as good as buying a basic model+Betta.
These machines are already very heavy.
The additional weight added by the skimmer module is more like a heavy burden than its functionality.
Considering your overall situation, although I have not used AIPER's latest product, SCUBA X1+BETTA is your best choice.
The second layer filter is very important as long as the filter does not completely clog.
It will be very useful.
In addition, the 2025model of AIPER SCUBA S1 is also equipped with a fine filter, which you can use as an alternative
 
Hello everyone, I am a professional in the swimming pool robot industry.

I have purchased robots from various brands for research, including Aiper S1 Pro, Wybot s2, Beatbot Aquasense PRO, as well as some smaller brands like Lydsto, Smorobot, Poolpure Aquaguard, etc.

In my daily work, I spend a significant amount of time comparing the data parameters of different robots and dismantling models from brands like Beatbot, Wybot, Aiper, and others. I also test robots from different brands in various pool environments, including green pools, to observe how they perform in real-world conditions.

Additionally, I’ve compiled some knowledge and insights about using swimming pool robots, which I’d like to share today.

If you are considering purchasing a swimming pool robot, feel free to tell me about your pool’s characteristics, such as:

  • Outdoor or indoor pool
  • Does the pool have stairs or steps?
  • Is there a lot of fine sand,dirt to clean or big leaves to clean?
Based on your specific situation, I can offer recommendations to help you choose the most suitable pool robot.

Looking forward to discussing and sharing experiences with everyone!
Hi,
I just have a 18 ft round AG pool that is below grade. 4 ft deep.
I don't really have a problem with the wall if that makes a difference. And my ladder is removable. Want something that is easy for the wife to use. I am now older with health problems.
 

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