Pooltec

[jimim]

I want to gather some info. We have talked about on here that Poly40 will oxidize FC when the FC is at a certain level. So if you use Poly40 with closing u can't close at slam level or high FC levels.

Today I was introduced to Pooltec:

EasyCare Water

It was explained to me that their product will not oxidize FC like Poly40 will. that when used for closing you can keep ur FC level high with pooltec so pretty much have the protection of a poly40 product and high FC levels without having to worry about oxidized FC.

I don't know that's why I'm asking here.

I get the whole closing process here but with my cloudy water situation today this new info was brought to me. I thought it was interesting cause the Slam level poly40 question has come up a lot in the past few weeks here on multiple threads.

Lets assume closing with a little warmer water so the need for ploy40. i know it really isn't needed with cold closing and cold opening.

jim

 

[kimkats]

Jim, I am going to see if I can find out what all is in this stuff.I tried to get the spec sheet but only page 1 loads hummmmmmm wonder why that is??? I also find it interesting they also see algaecide. why would the be if this stuff is all that?

Kim

 

[kimkats]

Found it!

Poly[oxyethlene(dimethyliminio) ethylene(dimethyliminio)ethylene dichloride] aka "Poly quat -- poly[oxyethylene(dimethyliminio)ethylene(dimethyliminio) ethylene dichloride] -- is sold under multiple names. But if it says 'poly . . . ', it's polyquat. Unlike other algicides, it's nearly side effect free, even at very high doses. However, many people do become frustrated with its major unwanted effect: regular use tends to result in 'wallet-ectomies' (it's expensive!). And it's really better at preventing algae, than killing it. If you typically develop mustard algae in August, using low doses of polyquat beginning in late July may prevent the problem."

Just another name for polyquat

 

[jimim]

So I guess my main question is does it allow chlorine to remain at high level in the pool when closing vs a regular poly40 product. That is this chemicals claim to fame. This is the company that makes startuptec that so many builders use. It has been mentioned on here a lot in the past.

 

[Catanzaro]

So I guess my main question is does it allow chlorine to remain at high level in the pool when closing vs a regular poly40 product. That is this chemicals claim to fame. This is the company that makes startuptec that so many builders use. It has been mentioned on here a lot in the past.

Jim:

You do not need high chlorine levels when using PolyQuat. One can only assume that this version is no different than other versions, etc. and that is why the manufacturer states to keep your levels within range when adding. You do not need to worry about algae when closing the pool if your water is at 60* or lower. My experience has been positive with a solid tarp and lows levels with Poly60, even in the middle of September.

The only way you are going to find out is by testing the product out next year. I honestly believe you will come to the same conclusion in where the chlorine levels will drop. We had one member experience rising PH, but this was with a fiber glass pool.

 

[duraleigh]

for those interested in an algaecide, Polyquat 60 is the product TFP has always suggested......not 40. I have never used it and believe it may be helpful but I am not completely convinced it is that much better than SLAM value chlorine.

 

[Catanzaro]

for those interested in an algaecide, Polyquat 60 is the product TFP has always suggested......not 40. I have never used it and believe it may be helpful but I am not completely convinced it is that much better than SLAM value chlorine.

There is no reason to use Poly60 if the pool is being closed with water temperatures of 60* and lower, so in total agreement. Only time I suggest this is for early closings (when there are no other options). In the end I think it comes down to comfort, and yes, there should be no forum members using anything different than what we endorse and recommend (Poly60). When the water is that cold, one can get away with very little chlorine in the pool at closing.

Last year, a friend of mine had a new liner installed and filled with city water. Pool was closed with no CYA and no chlorine. High end mesh cover. But the water was in the 50's by the end of November. Opened up last week in April to a clear pool. The real key here is the water temperature, but the water must be free of algae before closing.

 

[jimim]

So what’s the diff in poly 40 vs 60. I guess I messed up then?

 

[Catanzaro]

Nothing more than the concentration. Poly60 has a greater concentration, just as 12.5% bleach has greater concentration than 8.25% bleach.