Pool brands

Dec 16, 2017
5
Michigan
Hi, I am new to the pool scene and in the research phase of a new above ground pool and am looking to go with a 28 to 32' round. I have been looking at the doughboys but am wondering are they worth the extra money? I'm not opposed to spending a little more to get a quality pool but also do not want to spend it if I do not need to and of course every store I go into tells me they have the best. I could use the money saved to go towards a deck. The dealers around me carry Doughboy,Lomart,Sharkline and Atlantic to name a few. Is there any I should stay away from or recommend?
Also the doughboy dealers really try to steer me away from a cartridge filter and one of them refuses to sell them. Is there a reason for this ? I was really looking to go with a cartridge filter due to being on a well and there would be less well water consumption but they are all against it.
Any info is greatly appreciated. Thank you
 
Welcome to TFP. Hopefully you've had a chance to read thru Pool School and are ready to enjoy your pool.

As for brands of pools I can't say that I have ever seen a bad word written about a doughboy pool and there certainly seem to be a lot of them that are still going strong after many years of use. The same can be said for Sharkline. The other two brands I haven't heard of but that doesn't mean they are bad pools I've just never heard of them. With above ground pools there tends to be a you get what you pay for relationship between the cost of the pool and the quality of the pool. You have to try and remove any pool builder bundle and labor costs when trying to compare pools from different local shops.

The biggest thing that will impact the longevity of your pool regardless of premium brand name or cheapo name is how well your site has been leveled and prepared prior to any of the pool parts coming out of the box. Take a good look at the land where you plan to put the pool and try to anticipate if there are any standing water issues, slopes to be corrected, rocks/trees to be moved ect. Once the pool is set up it is impossible to correct any site issues without draining and taking the pool apart. Extra money on a good builder that does proper site prep is worth 10 times more than the money spent on a more expensive model of pool.

With a TFP maintained pool and properly sized sand filter (read bigger than the one that is part of the builders pool bundle) your need to backwash the filter will be very low. Your main driver of makeup water to refill the pool will be evaporation to the air. If you want to keep the need to add makeup water to a pool to a minimum keep the pool covered with a solar cover when not in use.

There is nothing wrong with cartridge filters many people love theirs and would never own anything else. They do a great job but are more time consuming to clean. They are also more expensive than sand filters and you will need a Large cartridge filter for a pool your size if you don't want to be cleaning it every month. The builders likely shy away from them because people don't maintain them properly and then in turn blame the builder for selling them a filter that doesn't work.

Its your pool and your filter tho and no matter which one you get be it DE, sand, or cartridge remember one thing with filter bigger is better. There is no such thing as a filter that is "too big" for a pool.

If you don't plan on adding anything fancy to your pool like solar panels or other water features you absolutely don't need a pump any bigger then 1hp. Ideally you should get a 2-spd pump or if you can get a find a deal on one a small Variable speed pump to keep your electrical running cost to a minimum.

A Salt Water generator is a great thing and don't let a builder talk out of one unless they won't honor a warranty if you have one. If a builder refuses a salt water generator then that might be a sign you shouldn't be doing business with that builder.

Never for any reason let a builder include a mineral system with your pool, such as a "Frog" system.

Plan ahead as to how you will get in and out of the pool. Adding a access deck to an above ground pool makes using and enjoying the pool considerably easier and better. The ladders and steps to get in and out the of pool are also another area where spending extra money now goes a long way.

As a final thought go with the 32' if you can. You never here anybody with an above ground pool say they wish they had gotten a smaller one.
 
check out the pools from "the pool factory" They are very reasonably priced and I love mine. If you can find an installer that will assemble and level your property and install the pool you are golden. Regarding the cartridge, very odd they would try to talk you out of them. I think they are by far the easiest. If you buy an oversized filter you will barely clean it. I have a 75SQ ft filter for my 5,000 gallon pool and I cleaned it once during the summer. My PSI went from 14 to 15 in like 4 months.
 
Thank you for the information. Yeah it's only the Doughboy dealers that are pushing away from cartridge filters. One Doughboy dealer refuses to sell it and the other keeps trying to talk me out of it. They both push the sand or DE filter. I don't get it at all because dealers of the other brands of pools are all about the cartridge filters which is why I'm confused.
 
I was really looking to go with a cartridge filter due to being on a well and there would be less well water consumption but they are all against it.
Welcome to the forum:wave:

Sorry to give you more to think about but your well water may give you some problems regardless of which pool or filter you choose.

Many, many wells contain iron and iron in your pool can give you more problems than anyone needs. Do NOT let folks tell you you can easily deal with it. If you have iron in your well water (get it tested) you CAN deal with it but don't expect it to be easy.
 
My store is a Lomart dealer. Lomart and Doughboy are made by the same parent company (Hoffinger) in the same factory in Arkansas. All American steel and vinyl in the construction (they make their own 20 mil liners). Very good pools on both brands. Can easily last 20+ years.

I've heard good things about Sharkline but have no experience with them personally.

Atlantic is a sub brand of Wil Bar pools, they're a very middle of the road sort of pool. Not fantastic, not awful.

What would be a selling point for me is who is making the liner. Like I said above, Hoffinger makes their own liners for the Doughboy and Lomart pools. True 20 mil, not some fake 20 "gauge" or "Perma 20" measurement. Most dealers who get Wil Bar pools order liners separately from another company like Swimline. While those liners aren't necessarily bad, almost no one makes a true 20 mil liner anymore, so be wary if the dealer lists their liner thickness measurement by weight or "Perma".

Most Doughboy/Lomart dealers don't sell cartridge filters because Lomart (who is also the equipment arm of Hoffinger) doesn't make cartridge filters, and as a dealer they like to sell you the whole Hoffinger package. Nothing necessarily wrong with a cartridge filter, they're just limited to Lomart's Spectra sand filter and Ultima/Hydra DE filter.
 
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