Phos-Free + Pool Perfect...recommended use

joe603

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May 21, 2018
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Fayetteville/GA
I have a brand new pool...opened for just over a month and I'd like to get some opinions on the process of adding Phos-Free + Pool Perfect. How are you guys adding it to your pools? I have a pebblesheen 20k gallon, salt-water pool.

The bottle says to add the entire thing...but my pool builder chem guy says it's a weekly deal. Thoughts?
 
I'd like to get some opinions on the process of adding Phos-Free + Pool Perfect. How are you guys adding it to your pools?
We're not. Take 'em back Joe! Save your money. You're still new to the forum, but do some searches here about any of those items and you'll see they simply are not required. They help pay the electric bill for the pool store, that's about it.

Stick with the TFP ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry and the Vital Links you see below in my signature and that's all you need. Clear water, safe products, and less $$$. If anything, make sure you are testing your own water with a TF-100 or Taylor K-2006C test kit. That is a MUST.
 
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Phos-Free is unnecessary. Phosphates are algae food. With TFPC you eliminate the algae, so nothing to eat the phosphates. Classic pool store scare tactic to remove money from your wallet.

Pool Perfect appears to be a clarifier. Really do not want to use that. You really only need chlorine (your SWCG provides that) and muriatic acid for your pool. Depending on fill water you might need baking soda but doubtful.

Take care.
 
that's why i didn't hire the one pool builder cause every converstion was about about chemicals and chemicals and chemicals and no alt and no salt and use phospho free and this chemical and this other chemical and your pool will be perfect.

it will prob glow also with all the chemicals going into it!

jim
 
Thanks for the replies! Honestly, our builder hasn't pitched much of anything, chem-wise...they have a "maintenance guy" that gives customers a quick pool school to show them the equipment and chem basics. During that, he recommended the phos-free stuff. Found it on Amazon for WAY less than Leslies, so I bought 2, 3L bottles. The question I had was should I follow the directions on the bottle, to dump all of it in at once, or follow my pool maintenance guy who says to add a small amount every week or so?

He has also said to ignore the pool store's recommendation to keep CYA levels at 80-100. Currently, ours it at 40 and from what I've read online, that seems to be a good number for a private pool.
 
Joe, if you're really set on using that product, I'd just go with the instructions on the bottle. But if you would like our recommendation, it would be to contact Amazon and coordinate a return for the unopened products, then use the money saved to get yourself either a TF-100 or Taylor K-2006C test kit. The right test kit will by-far do more for you by making your testing more productive, accurate, and help you to have a more enjoyable swimming season. Those pre-bottled potions simply do not work. It's all about the proper chemistry. ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry

Let us know if you we can help clarify anything else about the TFP concept. Have a nice day.
 
Firstly, welcome to TFP!
The question I had was should I follow the directions on the bottle, to dump all of it in at once, or follow my pool maintenance guy who says to add a small amount every week or so?
Really that is up to you. Our advice would not be to follow either as we generally don't bother messing with phosphates as properly cared for pools don't have algae to consume the phosphates anyway. I can say that trying to mix advice from multiple sources is not going to work, so if you are going to follow the pool guy's maintenance advice then we really can't comment on it except to say whether we agree or disagree. However, if we disagree and you don't do something he suggests but are not doing everything we suggest either then it is just a recipe for a green pool and a headache.

Stick with one source. I know TFPC is a great program that creates comfortable, clear, and safe water without a bunch of costly extras (cough-phosfree-cough). But if you are happy with your pool guy and the results and cost of his advice, then stick with it. Regardless I hope you enjoy your new pool!
 
Welcome to the TFP pool! :splash:

You will find that how we recommend a pool be cared for here is much different from what the average pool builder or pool store recommends. We base our pool care system on accurate testing and only adding what the pool needs, when it needs it. We find that a properly chlorinated pool does not need additions such as Phos-Free + Pool Perfect as they can tend to "mask" problems. The industry will say that phosphates are "algae food" and if you eliminate the food you eliminate getting algae. While that may be true to an extent, algae in a pool tells us something - it tells us that the sanitation has dropped too low. Think of it as the canary in the coal mine. If you use Phos-Free + Pool Perfect and the sanitation levels drop too low, you don't know it and you are possibly harboring some really bad stuff in the water. Clear water does not always equal safe water.

So, how do we maintain a pool? As I said, accurate testing so that we are assured that the levels of chlorine are always where they need to be to keep the water safe. To do that you need your own accurate test kit, one with a FAS/DPD chlorine test. Why this test? because it can both measure chlorine levels up to 50ppm and as low as 0.2 in 0.2 increments. The following kits contain that test while very few other kits do. The kits sold at the pool store generally won't won't cut it, but be careful pool store employees are known to say “it's the same thing”. Generally it's not!

I recommend the TF100 test kit as it was designed for residential use and has more of what we do use and less or none of what we don't use often.

The only other real option for a test kit is a Taylor K-2006. Be careful comparing prices because the K-2006 comes in sizes, designated by a letter. The basic K-2006 has .75oz bottles. You need to get the K-2006-C to get the larger bottles that you want. Even then it is a little short on the reagent & powder for the FAS/DPD test.

I also have the SpeedStir and Sample Sizer. They speed testing and accuracy.

I guess I'll close by quoting Dave here at TFP:
Throughout TFP, you will read that we suggest certain levels that good science and practical experience has taught us fall within safe ranges.

Further reading of posts here will draw you to the inescapable conclusion that these guidelines work.......in thousands and thousands of pools worldwide.

You may or may not choose to use these methods and guidelines or you may use some and not others. Our goal is to teach you what has been proven time and time again and then let you use that information to your benefit.
 
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