OmniPL compatible pool lights

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zimdogg

zimdogg

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I inherited our pool last year from the previous homeowners, and our pool light has never worked. I'm upgrading our Hayward E-Command 4 with the OmniPL Retrofit kit this year due to a bad Ecommand board (slow clock). I'd also like to get the light in the pool working.

In reading, it seems the Hayward Omnilogic pool lights have a high failure rate, and they're expensive. I'm not about that life, so I'm trying to find something else.

Someone else on this forum directed others to the Brilliant Wonders options that are Hayward compatible. They seem to be a good option and have some features that look nice for replacement and winterization if required. Before I make the purchase, I just want to be sure this will work with my automation system.

I'm looking at purchasing this: Brilliant Wonders Color LED Light | H-Style 11 Watts 100' Cord | 25503-560-100H

Questions:
1) How do I know if my pool light is 12v or 120v, and how to I ensure I don't order something that's not going to work?
2) Is it hard to pull 100' of cord through a conduit? Little nervous about that
3) Any experience with this light from others and hooking up to hayward automation?
 
I hate to be harsh but if you cannot tell the difference between 12V or 120V wiring you should probably get help.

How closely have you looked at the pool light wiring?

Do you have a pool light junction box in between the pool light and your panel?

Do you know where the end of the pool light wire is?

Show us what you got.
 
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ajw22 said:
I hate to be harsh but if you cannot tell the difference between 12V or 120V wiring you should probably get help.

How closely have you looked at the pool light wiring?

Do you have a pool light junction box in between the pool light and your panel?

Do you know where the end of the pool light wire is?

Show us what you got.
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Ha, no worries... you're not being harsh. I probably didn't explain my question well enough. I can tell the difference between 12v and 120v wiring.

What I'm getting at, is I believe my current light to be a 120v light, and I'm considering purchasing a 12v light instead. I'm trying to determine if my controller has the correct outputs for low voltage lighting or if I'll need to get a transformer of some kind.

The light states its compatible with Hayward automation, but the voltage is different so just trying to understand. I'd get you a picture, but I'm not home right now and it's pretty cold here in Kansas City. I believe the light is wired all the way to the controller, which has a built in sub panel on it for high voltage.
 
Automation always controls 120V or 240V using relays.

You always need a pool rated light transformer for 12V lights.

120V LED lights have the transformer built into the light.

No automation panel has 12V light direct connections.
 
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Automation always controls 120V or 240V using relays.

You always need a pool rated light transformer for 12V lights.

120V LED lights have the transformer built into the light.

No automation panel has 12V light direct connections.
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Could you point me to some pool rated transformers?
 
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Could you point me to some pool rated transformers?
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Pentair Pool Light Transformer 12-14V 300 Watts - 619963

This is a Pentair light transformer that is 12 to 14 volts and 300 watts. It is designed for Pentair lights MagicStream Laminars, IntelliBrite Landscape LED lights, GloBrite Pool and Spa LED Lights.
www.poolweb.com
 
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Pentair Pool Light Transformer 12-14V 300 Watts - 619963

This is a Pentair light transformer that is 12 to 14 volts and 300 watts. It is designed for Pentair lights MagicStream Laminars, IntelliBrite Landscape LED lights, GloBrite Pool and Spa LED Lights.
www.poolweb.com
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Thanks a bunch.
 
My pool is about two years old with four Hayward ColorLogic lights; unfortunately I’ve had to replace two to-date as the contractor installed what I found to be a used light on one niche, and damaged the cord on another. Each pull was about 75 feet or so, and pulling the cable through the conduit was not entirely easy. If you have an existing cable, you can use that to pull back a high-strength pull-line for the new light. In one of my cases, the conduit was damaged and packed with mud, so I had to use a fish tape to pull a new line; it was pretty painful but eventually got it done. Mileage will vary depending on how many turns you have in your conduit and what angles were used.

I’d never heard of these new lights and was excited to see the post about them; they’re about the same price as the ColorLogic niche lights, but if they’re more reliable, I may give one a shot when my next one goes out. I skimmed the manual and they’re compatible with the OmniPL by using the traditional, non-OmniDirect mode of switching the relay to select the color scheme. This isn’t as nice as OmniDirect, as you have to cycle the lights to get the color you want, and you don’t have brightness control; though I don’t have direct experience with these however, I wouldn’t see a reason why they won’t work with the Omni based on what I saw in the manual. Hope you give these a shot and provide some feedback on how you like them!
 
I did end up purchasing one of these lights. I also ID'd a transformer, and the light was already 12v power, so it should be a pretty easy swap assuming I can pull 100' of cord through the conduit successfully. I'll update when it's done.
 
My update is here! I'm more than happy with this light so far. I only have 1 light in our pool, so if you have more lights it will probably be brighter, but this light holds its own in our pool. Install was straight forward, I poured dawn dish soap in the conduit to help pull the new cord through after attaching it to the old cord. This guy's video and how he attached this cords together is the method I used:

Here's a couple of pictures I've taken with blue and another more aqua color. There's 17 different color options I can pick from, some solid colors, some shows.


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pool light1.jpg
 

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ajw22 said:



Pentair Pool Light Transformer 12-14V 300 Watts - 619963

This is a Pentair light transformer that is 12 to 14 volts and 300 watts. It is designed for Pentair lights MagicStream Laminars, IntelliBrite Landscape LED lights, GloBrite Pool and Spa LED Lights.
www.poolweb.com
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Howdy Sir, You do have to make sure when you up to say 100ft. That you may need to go to 13V on Transformer just because of the distance it is traveling it will make light Hot and will burn up.. Thanks RRR
 
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