Is this black algae?

Brad4

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Aug 23, 2017
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New Tazewell, TN
Hi, I am fairly new to pools. I have a gunite IG saltwater pool which is outside in the sun all day. I have seen a few black areas which I can scrub off with a metal pool brush (takes quite hard scrubbing). Upon close inspection of these areas, the black seems to be on the ridges of the gunite and not in the pores. See pic. What does this look like? The size of this spot is only about 1 cm wide. I also notice black stuff between tiles at the waterline of the pool at times that I can also scrub off with the metal brush. Thank you!View attachment 68276
 
Seems like there must be a reason if this is black algae, like your chlorine levels are too low? Unfortunately I am not a saltwater pool owner so not sure how to respond. But I battled black algae in my freshwater pool for about three weeks. It took intensive brushing, high chlorine levels (like around 20 mg/l+) and around the clock circulating to finally get rid of it! I had black streaks on the bottom and black patches on the walls. What a nightmare it was!


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40,400 inground gunnite, max depth 10-ft with 1.5 hp single speed Pentair, DE filter, well water, only one skimmer working, TAYLOR TK-2006 TEST KIT COMP CHLORINE FAS-DPD, Chester County, PA--OLD pool, but a beauty.
 
I do have granular chlorine in the form of calcium hypochlorite 65%. I did an overnight chlorine test and my ppm loss was only 0.5. How can I tell for sure if it black algae? Is there a test? Thank you!

There is an article posted in the TFP website that describes how to identify and how to treat black algae. Is it getting worse/ are the black spots worsening? I had to continue to add chlorine for about three weeks at very high levels (23-25) because I lost so much chlorine over night. Plus lots and lots of brushing

All this being said you have not listed your water chemistry numbers and even if you did I would not know what the proper numbers are.

People say that if you rub a tricolor tab on the algae the stain will go away. Others say that black algae feels waxy to the touch. I didn't notice this. It just kept getting blacker and more abundant on walls and bottom. And then it consumed chlorine until it was gone. Maybe you should repost a new question after reading the Black Algae article? Maybe it is some type of staining because of improper chemistry. Wish I could help you more--



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40,400 inground gunnite, max depth 10-ft with 1.5 hp single speed Pentair, DE filter, well water, only one skimmer working, TAYLOR TK-2006 TEST KIT COMP CHLORINE FAS-DPD, Chester County, PA--OLD pool, but a beauty.
 
Ok, I am now certain this is black algae as I recently found a slight larger patch and scraped it off on my fingernail to see green. I had a failing SWG (ecomatic) before that the pool had when I bought the house. Because of this the chlorine has dropped sometimes below recommended levels. Also, at first I had no stabilizer in the pool because thats what my pool store recommended. I have since read up a lot (this site is so helpful) and learned a lot. I know not to trust what my pool store was telling me. I now have a new hayward aquarite T15 installed on my 21.300 gallon pool. The places I see the algae are on a few very small spots where the pool has some shade, on my top step where the water is shallow, and around all around the pool at the waterline (in between each and every tile). I read the pool school link. Last night, I thoroughly cleaned and metal brushed everything. I put the SWG on superchlorinate. Now I plan to follow pool school advice. Few questions:

1) My pool is 3 years old and gunite (is this plaster?), can I use a metal brush all the time including weekly maintenance or should I use a soft bristle for weekly maintenance? What brand / type brushes are recommended?

2) Is it okay to use the superchlorinate option on my T15?

3) If I could instead, just keep the black algae at bay, could I just wait until I close the pool out for the winter (what I mean is, would it die over the winter months)?

4) At what pool FC levels is it safe for me to still get in the pool? I can scrub much harder on some spots if I am actually in the pool.

Thank you!!
 
Ok, I am now certain this is black algae as I recently found a slight larger patch and scraped it off on my fingernail to see green. I had a failing SWG (ecomatic) before that the pool had when I bought the house. Because of this the chlorine has dropped sometimes below recommended levels. Also, at first I had no stabilizer in the pool because thats what my pool store recommended. I have since read up a lot (this site is so helpful) and learned a lot. I know not to trust what my pool store was telling me. I now have a new hayward aquarite T15 installed on my 21.300 gallon pool. The places I see the algae are on a few very small spots where the pool has some shade, on my top step where the water is shallow, and around all around the pool at the waterline (in between each and every tile). I read the pool school link. Last night, I thoroughly cleaned and metal brushed everything. I put the SWG on superchlorinate. Now I plan to follow pool school advice. Few questions:

1) My pool is 3 years old and gunite (is this plaster?), can I use a metal brush all the time including weekly maintenance or should I use a soft bristle for weekly maintenance? What brand / type brushes are recommended?

2) Is it okay to use the superchlorinate option on my T15?

3) If I could instead, just keep the black algae at bay, could I just wait until I close the pool out for the winter (what I mean is, would it die over the winter months)?

4) At what pool FC levels is it safe for me to still get in the pool? I can scrub much harder on some spots if I am actually in the pool.

Thank you!!

1. My pool is gunnite and I was told by multiple people to brush with a wire brush to break through the waxy coating the algae has and then to get to the little filaments/roots that penetrate the plaster. This is like a marine algae you might see on a rock, they stick! I bought my metal brush from the PS. I just had my plaster patched in the spring so it was painful to have to use this metal brush. No other way apparently. Right after you brush SLAM the pool so the chlorine hits the brushed algae!

2. I don't know the answer to this

3. I would kill it completely before closing the pool--that is me. Who knows what will happen all fall, winter and early spring?

4. I have heard that commercial pools keep their chlorine at 10, not sure if that is true but I have swam in my pool when it was 8 and could not tell the difference.

The thing is you don't want your free chlorine levels to go Dow at all since it gives the algae another foothold. Shock the heck out of the pool and be sure to include all your equipment in the chlorine pool including your robot as the spores will get everywhere even into bathing suits and pool toys. Wash them or soak in pool with shock level chlorine.

It is a nightmare to have black algae. In addition to shocking and keeping chlorine levels high I used trichlor when gone during the day to maintain levels. Don't stop keeping levels high even after you see the algae gone--like instead of 3 keep it at 7 or 8 all the time for maintenance. Good luck with it all!!


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40,400 inground gunnite, max depth 10-ft with 1.5 hp single speed Pentair, DE filter, well water, only one skimmer working, TAYLOR TK-2006 TEST KIT COMP CHLORINE FAS-DPD, Chester County, PA--OLD pool, but a beauty.
 
1) My pool is 3 years old and gunite (is this plaster?), can I use a metal brush all the time including weekly maintenance or should I use a soft bristle for weekly maintenance? What brand / type brushes are recommended?
They recommend using a wire brush for algae on concrete/gunite/plaster like this I'd be careful if you have a new finish, if my pool finish was new I'd probably try to get away with using nylon but it might not be good enough

2) Is it okay to use the superchlorinate option on my T15?
You can try this but the only recomended treatment for algae is to SLAM to ensure your FC is high enough to prevent the algae from overcoming it. Superclorinate only turns your SWG to max and doesn't guarantee this

3) If I could instead, just keep the black algae at bay, could I just wait until I close the pool out for the winter (what I mean is, would it die over the winter months)?
If you don't kill it then it will usually multiply and you will have a much worse problem

4) At what pool FC levels is it safe for me to still get in the pool? I can scrub much harder on some spots if I am actually in the pool.
FC is safe based on the CYA/FC chart so with CYA of 80 (typical for SWG) up to 31 (shock level) is considered safe. They say if you can see the bottom of your pool and your FC is at or below your shock level (for your CYA) it's safe to get in
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Also if you can post your full test results, I could give you more specific answers

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