Hayward Super Pump VS - Programming Override

[richmgreen]

HI. Old posts never answered this question by others. I've read through the entire manual and can't find an answer.

If I have timers set and for one day want to run my heater for 10 hours, how would I override the programed timers. I couldn't set Speed 4 to 3200rpm for 12 hours, but how do I stop it early or extend the time to run heater and get back into timer mode. The heater is not controlled by the hayward pump controller. Wow, lousy explanation. Guess I'm just looking for some kind of override to the program times.

Is there a VS pump available that will have this feature, if the Super Pump VS doesn't.

Thanks
Rich

 

[bradgray]

Hi Rich.

Can I ask why you aren't already running your pump at least 10 hours each day? 1800rpm or greater is usually sufficient to keep the heater happy and would be a minimal utility cost at even 24/7 operation.

If the pump was always in this state, manually engaging your heater would be the only task you'd have to fuss with.

 

[richmgreen]

Hi. Not having any experience et with a VS pump. I wasn't sure what rpm level would work for skimming properly and running a heater. I was thinking I could run a lower RPM for continual skimming and that it might be too low for the heater. But, won't know that until I try it this spring. . I do run my single RPM pump about 14 hours a day in the summer. So, I should see a good savings with the VS pump. In my town in CT, we pay a hair over $.25 /kwh.! Just didn't know if there was some kind of over ride on the VS pump.

 

[BMerrill]

The Hayward Tristar line of VS pumps come in 2 versions. With or without the Omni Controller.
With either version the timers are no longer needed.
Without the OMNI you can program the pump and the speeds through the onboard controller, you will not be able to program the speed to change when the heater comes on. You can with the OMNI version.

A work around with the non-OMNI version.
Turn the pump on, after the 3 minute primp cycle, set the speed to say 1800 rpm.
Turn the heater on. If ample pressure is present and the water temperature is below setpoint the heater would come on; if not increase pump speed by 200 until it does. Now add 200 rpms as a safety factor. This will be the speed you run the pump when you want to heat your pool.
The heater should cycle on and off as needed, the pump would run full time in this configuration.

 

[bradgray]

Hi. Not having any experience et with a VS pump. I wasn't sure what rpm level would work for skimming properly and running a heater. I was thinking I could run a lower RPM for continual skimming and that it might be too low for the heater. But, won't know that until I try it this spring. . I do run my single RPM pump about 14 hours a day in the summer. So, I should see a good savings with the VS pump. In my town in CT, we pay a hair over $.25 /kwh.! Just didn't know if there was some kind of over ride on the VS pump.

The rpm will vary somewhat from pool to pool because it actually the flow rate/gpm that the switch is going to respond to. BMerrill gave a good description on how to find the happy point for your heater. My only suggestion is to start lower so that you know where your basement is to maximize your cost savings.

As BMerrill also mentioned, if you have (or invest in) the Omni system, you can schedule pumps speeds and heater settings in depth and have much more control over the system's efficiencies.

 

[richmgreen]

Thank you guys for all your help!