Hayward Pool Light Replacement Help

[hbailly77]

We have a 10x30 in-ground play pool (Pebble Tec) that is about 5 years old. Located in Phoenix, AZ. Last summer our pool light (Hayward Universal ColorLogic LED 12V) stopped working and after we pulled it out of the niche, noticed the lens was 1/3 full of water inside. We managed to shake enough water out of it and sealed every crevice we could find that may be letting water in, but it still continued to fill with water and then died completely.

We finally bought a replacement light, but now that it’s been delivered, I noticed that this new Hayward ColorLogic 4.0 LED is 120V, not 12V like the previous light. Assuming local code allows for a 120V light, can this be installed to replace the 12V? From what little I could find, I’ve seen it mentioned that we will need a GCFI outlet, which there is one attached to the pool electrical box. However, the new light has 3 cables and the old light only had 2…

I just need to know if we are going to have to return this light for something compatible with the 12V setup we already have?

 

[mknauss]

I just need to know if we are going to have to return this light for something compatible with the 12V setup we already have?

yes.

 

[hbailly77]

yes.

There is no way to make it work?

 

[proavia]

There is no way to make it work?

No

 

[mknauss]

No. Your current system is designed to go through a transformer. You do not show an automation system in your signature, but typically the light is controlled via the automation.

 

[hbailly77]

No. Your current system is designed to go through a transformer. You do not show an automation system in your signature, but typically the light is controlled via the automation.

Thank you. I’m perplexed that the pool store recommended this new light when it’s not compatible. You mentioned automation - we don’t currently have automation, the current colored Hayward light is controlled by a light switch in the pool electrical box to change the colors. I’ve attached a few photos of our pool electrical to give you a visual.

 

[proavia]

You need to replace a 12v light with a 12v light.

Don't be perplexed that the PS recommended something wrong - they do it ALL the time.

 

[hbailly77]

You need to replace a 12v light with a 12v light.

Don't be perplexed that the PS recommended something wrong - they do it ALL the time.

I’m starting to figure that out. Thank you for your help.

Would you happen to know a suitable replacement for our (old) Hayward Universal ColorLogic 12V light? The only Hayward color pool lights I can find are 120V, absolutely nothing in 12V it seems. We want something that just slips into our niche by twisting/turning like our old/current light. Are most a universal fit?

 

[proavia]

Sorry, I do not.
Hopefully another member will be along that can help you.

 

[mknauss]

I would contact InyoPools or Florida Sunseeker. They have non Hayward lights that should work.
Hayward only allows those lights to be sold via their installer/dealers.

 

[London3125]

We have a 10x30 in-ground play pool (Pebble Tec) that is about 5 years old. Located in Phoenix, AZ. Last summer our pool light (Hayward Universal ColorLogic LED 12V) stopped working and after we pulled it out of the niche, noticed the lens was 1/3 full of water inside. We managed to shake enough water out of it and sealed every crevice we could find that may be letting water in, but it still continued to fill with water and then died completely.

We finally bought a replacement light, but now that it’s been delivered, I noticed that this new Hayward ColorLogic 4.0 LED is 120V, not 12V like the previous light. Assuming local code allows for a 120V light, can this be installed to replace the 12V? From what little I could find, I’ve seen it mentioned that we will need a GCFI outlet, which there is one attached to the pool electrical box. However, the new light has 3 cables and the old light only had 2…

I just need to know if we are going to have to return this light for something compatible with the 12V setup we already have?

I happened to see your post on Reddit. I’m the guy that asked the questions. I’m not an electrician but I’m pretty sure the reason everyone is saying you can’t do this, has to do with the questions I asked. You simply cannot; repeat CANNOT reuse low voltage wire for a 120V application. What the guy told you on the other site could result in you or a family member getting electrocuted!

Please consult with a pool professional and or electrician for what you are trying to do. The cost of returning an incorrect purchase is nothing compared to putting 120V of electricity into a circuit in water that it is not designed for.

 

[hbailly77]

I happened to see your post on Reddit. I’m the guy that asked the questions. I’m not an electrician but I’m pretty sure the reason everyone is saying you can’t do this, has to do with the questions I asked. You simply cannot; repeat CANNOT reuse low voltage wire for a 120V application. What the guy told you on the other site could result in you or a family member getting electrocuted!

Please consult with a pool professional and or electrician for what you are trying to do. The cost of returning an incorrect purchase is nothing compared to putting 120V of electricity into a circuit in water that it is not designed for.

Thank you for your response. My head is spinning with the varied responses but overwhelmingly favoring replacing with another 12V, so that’s what we are going to do. Thanks again!

 

[London3125]

Good choice. By the way - here’s the 12V light we have -

Hayward LPCUS11100 Universal ColorLogic LED Pool Light, 12-Volt, 100-Foot Cord​

 

[hbailly77]

Good choice. By the way - here’s the 12V light we have -

Hayward LPCUS11100 Universal ColorLogic LED Pool Light, 12-Volt, 100-Foot Cord​

That’s the exact model we are trying to replace. I can’t find it anywhere, as apparently they only have the ColorLogic 4.0 120V now

 

[Ahultin]

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