Connecting Hayward TriStar 1.85 HP VS Pump (W3SP3206VSP) to an Aqua Plus

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Bryan K

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Jun 25, 2014
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Holmdel, NJ
Hello,

I have a 28,000 gallon inground salt water pool with a Hayward Aqua Plus control panel, Hayward DE filter, Hayward TriStar VSP, and a Hayward H Series 400k BTU gas heater. I recently replaced my Hayward 2HP Super Pump with a TriStar VS pump. The pump has been working perfectly in standalone mode - I set the Aqua Plus to run the filter 24 hours and use the timers on the TriStar to manage run times and RPM which has been working fine. I thought it may be better to set up the VS pump to be controlled via the Aqua Plus as I have a remote display in my house so I wouldn't have to go outside to the pool equipment and change the timer settings on the pump if I needed to run a manual cycle if I needed to run a super chlorinate cycle or turn on the heater (which requires 2,700 RPM - a higher speed than I would normally run during the day).

I also have a Hayward H Series gas heater which was installed in a standalone config (not controlled by the Aqua Plus) by the pool builder when the pool was constructed 8 years ago. I was planning on getting the pump set up in the Aqua Plus then if all goes well, connecting the heater to the Aqua Plus as well. Not sure why the heater wasn't configured to be managed by the Aqua Plus during the installation, curious how others control their heater.

Today I connected the control wiring from the pump to the Aqua Plus and configured the VS pump in the Aqua Plus. It works, the pump goes on and off when the filter button is pressed but I was disappointed to see you can only set up 4 speeds and each of the 4 timers in the Aqua Plus setup can only run one of those preset speeds. It appears I am actually taking a step backwards going this route as I am losing many of the options I have when using the pump in the standalone mode. I could probably get by with just the 4 speeds, especially if the Aqua Plus adjusts the pump RPM when the heater is activated as that would definitely save time and effort (and I would be able to do this all from inside my house).

Curious if anyone had any experience or opinions on this type of setup - is there any advantage to leaving the heater and pump as standalone devices not controlled by the Aqua Plus, or even with some loss on configurable functions does it make life easier?

Appreciate your thoughts

Bryan
 
Bryan K said:
Hi - agreed, the connection looks simple enough. I was curious about any reasons not to have the Aqua Plus control everything.
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Not sure of your exact situation with the PB or installer but sometimes the PB just know the basics of automation. Also from what I read the Aqua Plus is sold as a unit to control the SWCG but can also do other automation. So maybe that is all the installer did.

I did read that it allows the pump to have 4 speeds. My Jandy automation allows 8 speeds. However, I only use 5 but it really I could get by with 4 as follows
1 - general pool speed - this is my default speed when no other is scheduled and allows for SWCG to operate - 1500 rpm
2 - a higher skimming speed - 1900 rpm (run a couple of hours a day
3 - a higher skimming and mixing speed - 2300 rpm (also couple of hours)
4 - spa with heater speed - 2800 rpm - as required
5 - cleaner speed - 2900 rpm - this is with my pressure side cleaner (I could run it at 2800rpm if needed)

So you may do fine with the just the 4 speeds depending on your needs.
 
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HermanTX said:
Not sure of your exact situation with the PB or installer but sometimes the PB just know the basics of automation. Also from what I read the Aqua Plus is sold as a unit to control the SWCG but can also do other automation. So maybe that is all the installer did.

I did read that it allows the pump to have 4 speeds. My Jandy automation allows 8 speeds. However, I only use 5 but it really I could get by with 4 as follows
1 - general pool speed - this is my default speed when no other is scheduled and allows for SWCG to operate - 1500 rpm
2 - a higher skimming speed - 1900 rpm (run a couple of hours a day
3 - a higher skimming and mixing speed - 2300 rpm (also couple of hours)
4 - spa with heater speed - 2800 rpm - as required
5 - cleaner speed - 2900 rpm - this is with my pressure side cleaner (I could run it at 2800rpm if needed)

So you may do fine with the just the 4 speeds depending on your needs.
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Makes sense - thank you. I just need to test if the Aqua Plus knows to ramp up the RPM when the heater is called. I thought I read somewhere that it would but will review the docs again.
 
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