Pool Opened: High CyA (147 ppm) and FAC (15 PPM)

dobenshain

New member
Apr 29, 2024
2
North Potomac, Maryland
Pool Size
22000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
I lowered our 22K gallon pool by about 1 foot on saturday, and refilled with tap water. I also purchased a CyA remover from Leslie's. It's a pouch that sits in your filter basket and adsorbs the CyA out of your water (supposedly 10 ppm / week).

Any recommendations on bringing the FAC down? We stopped adding pucks a week ago because of the high chlorine.
 
Welcome to TFP! :wave: I have to say, I'm not familiar with any such product that will remove CYA. What about you JD - @Donldson? Regardless, an FC of 15 is no problem at all if your CYA is 40 or more. It will fall soon enough on its own. See the chart below to illustrate.

More than anything we would be concerned with how you are testing the water. Hopefully it's not the pool store as their testing is awful and they are probably the ones selling you tablets that increase the CYA to begin with. :brickwall: A home test kit such as a TF-Series (link in my signature) or Taylor K-2006C is required and highly recommended.

Also see our Pool Care Basics for lots of great articles. Hope that helps.

full
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sunny Blues
I lowered our 22K gallon pool by about 1 foot on saturday, and refilled with tap water. I also purchased a CyA remover from Leslie's. It's a pouch that sits in your filter basket and adsorbs the CyA out of your water (supposedly 10 ppm / week).

Any recommendations on bringing the FAC down? We stopped adding pucks a week ago because of the high chlorine.
It’s only high chlorine if you had low or no CYA. But at your CYA level it’s more likely your chlorine isn’t high enough.

That was the biggest lie pool stores ever fed us: that no matter what, any FC over 1-3ppm was extremely dangerous. The store associates had no understanding of the relationship between CYA and chlorine. Besides - if you keep it no higher than 3ppm you are always needing more, and more often, and that makes them money. At lower chlorine levels you are flirting on the edge of disaster on a daily basis if not hourly.

Better to have a higher CYA nearer 60-70 and keep chlorine higher to give more peace of mind and longer lasting chlorine. I can understand bringing CYA down from 147 because your level of chlorine is probably not high enough, but I only know of one way to quickly lower it and that is exchanging out the water. Careful about gimmicky pool store products. I’m not saying there can’t be anything new out there to lower it, I just never heard of it before this post and I’d be skeptical given the industry who is selling it.
 
I have to say, I'm not familiar with any such product that will remove CYA. What about you JD
Well, this is a first for me, but I see it on their website. GreenStory Global Cyanuric Acid Remover. $80 for a little filter thing you put in the skimmer. Just walking in to it I'm feeling all sorts of snake oil vibes. Such as the claim that it removes 10 ppm per week with no explanation of how it does so with regularity regardless of CYA level nor is there anything I see indicating how much CYA it will filter out in total.

I found the website and SDS, but I think I'll start a thread about it in the Deep End so as not to take over OP's thread talking about it. I'm very skeptical, but there are much better chemists than I who I'd like to hear from.

EDIT: Here is that thread: GreenStory Global Cyanuric Acid
 
Last edited:
I will admit to being new to pool ownership and a bit confused. If pH is in normal range, but FAC is 15 ppm, is the pool 'safe' to swim in? I see some saying ideal chlorine is higher than the 2-4 ppm, especially if CyA is at 147.

Is it safe to swim at 15 ppm?

What would you more experienced pool owners do?

Thanks
 
Yes 15ppm is safe to swim in if your CYA is that high. We follow this chart below to always keep ours in the target range, (not minimum because … “edge of disaster,) and refer to it for the proper slam levels too. It only goes to a CYA of 100 though so you really need to rely on PoolMath calculations for your target levels, (will PoolMath go that high?)

Anyway so long as your CYA is high you should carry a higher FC.

IMG_4935.jpeg
 
That was the biggest lie pool stores ever fed us: that no matter what, any FC over 1-3ppm was extremely dangerous
This is my sore spot this season.

How you gonna maintain a 1 to 3 ppm when you lose 4 every day in the peak season ? They don't even push daily testing or adding. Just go see then once a week and they'll sell you all kinds of shocks and super shocks to correct the previous weeks mistakes.

I'm losing 2ppm a day in NY and it's April. I could already have a swamp following the 1 to 3 ppm / test weekly at the store way.

Doben, in short, they literally don't even know what they don't even know. Read up on the basics in post#2. You'll know more than them in 5 minutes.

Ask away and we'll happily fill in any blanks. This is the particular link to your question:
FC/CYA Levels