I know, right? I never miss an update to this thread.Butterfly said:Well, of course! We all are! LOL :lol:Henry Porter said:Is somebody reading all this
Concrete pool up north
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This is my favorite thread on TFP. I have loved watching your meticulous pool build. I'm sorry I don't have anything important to add. (I'm just a plain-jane middle age housewife) But I have enjoyed watching you build your pool for your family, they must love it. I hope you keep your story going as you build your backyard oasis. Thanks for sharing with all of us. Kimrst
frustratedpoolmom said:Henry Porter said:
Just a thought... my cart pressure has never changed in 9 years. It changes depending on the speed and the port setting, but as far as showing a dirty cart vs. clean, nope, nada. When my heater was working (broke in May) the heater would not kick on if the cart was too dirty. That was when I knew it was time for a cleaning. But in general I can go about 6 weeks in between (YMMV) cleanings. The pressure didn't not go down after cleaning. Not even a change when we replaced the cart a couple of years ago.
So just thought I'd mention that - don't neccessarily look to the PSI as an indicator if when it needs to be cleaned.
Your not the only one. Its VERY rare i notice a psi increase in any cart filter i come across. Even alot de filters i see dirty are still reading the same psi as when clean. Sand filters seem to be the only ones with a noticiable increase when dirty.
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Hi there Kimrst and thank you
Feels good to have you here with me on this journey. I will continue to post along with the project proceeds but not so often from now on
I have injured my right leg to the extent that I haven't been able to do any cardio or join the aerobics that I love so much for almost a month. Not even my walks have I been able to take last to weeks that I normally sneak out on as often as I can. Not much to cry about I know! But when I have get used to work out do I have a hard time to stay away from it. I have been able to weight train though but there aren't anyting that can beat a good aerobic work out. Can it have something to do with that there is where all the ladies are....
I'm better now and will start my cardio this weekend.
Shall I say a few words on the pool build aswell! I will finish what I have started with the masonry work. That is something I want to lay behind me before the winter take place. If I can finish that and the tilework around the pool I'm happy. We have to consider that I hava a pool now that I want to use as much as I can before it get's to coold, so the conditions for this build are alot different compared to last year
The wood deck on the other hand will I wait with until early spring so it will be fresh to next seasons startup.That's about it.
//Mats
Sorry about your leg. Looks like you and I could have a good afternoon drinking beer and comparing our "war" wounds and injuries. I think I have everyone beat on concussions, though. :lol:
You can get some really good low impact exercise in the pool. There are all kinds of weights for that.
Soon after we moved into this house, one of my show dogs, on his way to becoming #7 Mastiff in the USA or there already (I can't remember), tore a cruciate ligament. (He was also a working dog.) He was such an active boy and absolutely loved the show ring and his working training and duties. Needless to say he was depressed with zero activity for several weeks. As soon as possible I had him swimming laps in the pool. His recovery was the best I ever had for cruciate tears. And it really seemed to help his spirits considerably, too. He went on to show and work for years afterward. (Part of success with recovery has to do with the condition of soft tissues prior to injury. He was heavily muscled and in prime condition before hand. He did a partial tear from a crate injury when he was about 10 months old; foot caught in the crate and a puppy freak out. Everyone thought I "road-worked" him but it was all from his desire to work and play. He spent hours, every day, playing futeball with a big heavy plastic ball, going up and down hills the whole time. It really hurt when he kicked it into my ankles.)
Hope this finds you well. "Growing old isn't for sissies." (Bette Davis)
gg=alice
You can get some really good low impact exercise in the pool. There are all kinds of weights for that.
Soon after we moved into this house, one of my show dogs, on his way to becoming #7 Mastiff in the USA or there already (I can't remember), tore a cruciate ligament. (He was also a working dog.) He was such an active boy and absolutely loved the show ring and his working training and duties. Needless to say he was depressed with zero activity for several weeks. As soon as possible I had him swimming laps in the pool. His recovery was the best I ever had for cruciate tears. And it really seemed to help his spirits considerably, too. He went on to show and work for years afterward. (Part of success with recovery has to do with the condition of soft tissues prior to injury. He was heavily muscled and in prime condition before hand. He did a partial tear from a crate injury when he was about 10 months old; foot caught in the crate and a puppy freak out. Everyone thought I "road-worked" him but it was all from his desire to work and play. He spent hours, every day, playing futeball with a big heavy plastic ball, going up and down hills the whole time. It really hurt when he kicked it into my ankles.)
Hope this finds you well. "Growing old isn't for sissies." (Bette Davis)
gg=alice
I'm already looking forward to that beer Alice. I'm made of glas nowadays so I can give you a match
That Bettie Davis quote is really spot and it stuck to me right away. You can feel how right she is when you like me start to train after a long brake. It's shocking how much longer your body take to heal after each workout. I'm lucky that my body still serves me well(touch wood) so I have nothing to complain about but my mind that still is in it's twenties(hope it's stays that way for a looong time ) haven't realized that I need to get used to heavy work outs and weights before I can train like I once did.
Alice, more importantly! I know I have seen a picture of one of your dogs sitting in your DH's lap in another thread here. If you have the time I would really wanna se that dog that injured himself. Must be a master piece of dog if it's top ten in the US. I have the greatest respect for big dogs but nevertheless impressed by them
Here is what I kept myself busy with today. A bit embarrassing not having more progress to show but that's the way things are.
Friday yeahh that's the way we like it, right
//Mats
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That Bettie Davis quote is really spot and it stuck to me right away. You can feel how right she is when you like me start to train after a long brake. It's shocking how much longer your body take to heal after each workout. I'm lucky that my body still serves me well(touch wood) so I have nothing to complain about but my mind that still is in it's twenties(hope it's stays that way for a looong time
) haven't realized that I need to get used to heavy work outs and weights before I can train like I once did. Alice, more importantly! I know I have seen a picture of one of your dogs sitting in your DH's lap in another thread here. If you have the time I would really wanna se that dog that injured himself. Must be a master piece of dog if it's top ten in the US. I have the greatest respect for big dogs but nevertheless impressed by them
Here is what I kept myself busy with today. A bit embarrassing not having more progress to show but that's the way things are.
Friday yeahh that's the way we like it, right
//Mats
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Good morning (here in NC), Mats,
How are you? :lol: Swim season is getting short here in the States. In North Carolina, I suspect I can go perhaps 'til Sept 15th before the weather begins to cool so swimming is not as attractive. How about you?
(That water sure is crystal clear in your pool....i expected nothing less!!)
How are you? :lol: Swim season is getting short here in the States. In North Carolina, I suspect I can go perhaps 'til Sept 15th before the weather begins to cool so swimming is not as attractive. How about you?
(That water sure is crystal clear in your pool....i expected nothing less!!)
Good evening Dave :-D
Yeah there's not much left of our summer here either. I think I can get going a bit in to Sept aswell but if I choose to do so I must run our heat pump a lot more. If we not get some of the heat that they had over Russia this summer. My hairdresser told me she read somewhere that we should get our share of that just in time before we get into fall but that just specualtions. I hope she's right though.
I got into the pool today after cleaning it rigorously and just like you noticed was the water crystal clear. Even if it wasn't as warm that I have like it to, was it one of the better experiences I have had there so far. It's a everyday luxury to have a pool that's how I would describe the feeling best. We don't regret one bit all money and time spent o this project, or me and our dear kidz won't regret it, DW could live with a smaller pool but she will change her mind once the whole area is finished i'm pretty sure about that. I can't blame her beacuse she have been putting up with living with all this mess for such a long time and I know that she will be relifed when it's done. Me to :lol:
I bought a vacuum cleaner for the pool. It worked well but I wasn't impressed by ending up with air in the strain basket no matter how careful I was filling the hose with water. So after I finished vacuuming I had to go down and air the filter but there were still some bubbles in the basket which took awhile to dissapear. I decided after that first and only time using it that I will buy a separate poolpump for that vacuum cleaner. With that extra pump can I decide If I want to vaccum to waist buy letting the hose into the big tube in our machineroom and pumping the water into our sewer. Or, can I mount a skimmer sock on the hose and let it goe into the pool again and let the sock catch the debrise, smart is'n it.....
First season and all and with all the new things that's out of my controll chemistry wise have I kept a really close eyes for stains. I have read that they can occur for different reasons and I think I'm a person that will dislike such things alot :? so I have done my best to keep the water in balance. BUT... last week did I find small spots on one side of the stairs but just there. I coulden't understand where they came from. But after a bit of thinking I understood that they came from when I grained the counter over the fridge, I wasn't as careful as I should have been and some of the dust from the grinder came into that part of the pool. It was iron stains beacuse the dust contain ferric oxide. I read that those stain fade and vanish with vitamin C but I could get them off with the scotch brite so there was no need to. Besides from those haven't I found anything odd so far.
My local pool store and the guy who run's it is just the opposite from those I read about here at TFP. He doesen't want to sell me anything at all I can say that he has been home and helped me with my plumbing and has become little of a friend of mine. He is very special. When I asked for conditoner he didn't want to sell me any, neither did he want to sell me CH increaser both of wich he had on the shelf. That not necessary I haven't sold any stabilizer for years he replied. I just said I think I take some anyway I never explained for him the reason why. Didn't wanna come to his store and try learn him things about pool chemistry doesen't feel right even if I think I could learn him a thing or two, maybe next year when I have one season under my belt Sometimes I wonder how he makes his business goes around. Before I decided to order my pool gear from US I had in mind letting him take care of my order. But it was the same way then. I had to struggle to upgrade the pump and filter to bigger once and also more expensive pieces which should bring him more money he said not necessary Mats. But now he has me as a customer for life. I trust him that if he sells me anything there isn't any intentions from his side to fool me. You don't find many of those people aorund and when you stumble across one you have to grab hold of him
Another memorible contribution from my side
Cheers
Yeah there's not much left of our summer here either. I think I can get going a bit in to Sept aswell but if I choose to do so I must run our heat pump a lot more. If we not get some of the heat that they had over Russia this summer. My hairdresser told me she read somewhere that we should get our share of that just in time before we get into fall but that just specualtions. I hope she's right though.
I got into the pool today after cleaning it rigorously and just like you noticed was the water crystal clear. Even if it wasn't as warm that I have like it to, was it one of the better experiences I have had there so far. It's a everyday luxury to have a pool that's how I would describe the feeling best. We don't regret one bit all money and time spent o this project, or me and our dear kidz won't regret it, DW could live with a smaller pool but she will change her mind once the whole area is finished i'm pretty sure about that. I can't blame her beacuse she have been putting up with living with all this mess for such a long time and I know that she will be relifed when it's done. Me to :lol:
I bought a vacuum cleaner for the pool. It worked well but I wasn't impressed by ending up with air in the strain basket no matter how careful I was filling the hose with water. So after I finished vacuuming I had to go down and air the filter but there were still some bubbles in the basket which took awhile to dissapear. I decided after that first and only time using it that I will buy a separate poolpump for that vacuum cleaner. With that extra pump can I decide If I want to vaccum to waist buy letting the hose into the big tube in our machineroom and pumping the water into our sewer. Or, can I mount a skimmer sock on the hose and let it goe into the pool again and let the sock catch the debrise, smart is'n it.....
First season and all and with all the new things that's out of my controll chemistry wise have I kept a really close eyes for stains. I have read that they can occur for different reasons and I think I'm a person that will dislike such things alot :? so I have done my best to keep the water in balance. BUT... last week did I find small spots on one side of the stairs but just there. I coulden't understand where they came from. But after a bit of thinking I understood that they came from when I grained the counter over the fridge, I wasn't as careful as I should have been and some of the dust from the grinder came into that part of the pool. It was iron stains beacuse the dust contain ferric oxide. I read that those stain fade and vanish with vitamin C but I could get them off with the scotch brite so there was no need to. Besides from those haven't I found anything odd so far.
My local pool store and the guy who run's it is just the opposite from those I read about here at TFP. He doesen't want to sell me anything at all
I can say that he has been home and helped me with my plumbing and has become little of a friend of mine. He is very special. When I asked for conditoner he didn't want to sell me any, neither did he want to sell me CH increaser both of wich he had on the shelf. That not necessary I haven't sold any stabilizer for years he replied. I just said I think I take some anyway I never explained for him the reason why. Didn't wanna come to his store and try learn him things about pool chemistry doesen't feel right even if I think I could learn him a thing or two, maybe next year when I have one season under my belt Sometimes I wonder how he makes his business goes around. Before I decided to order my pool gear from US I had in mind letting him take care of my order. But it was the same way then. I had to struggle to upgrade the pump and filter to bigger once and also more expensive pieces which should bring him more money he said not necessary Mats. But now he has me as a customer for life. I trust him that if he sells me anything there isn't any intentions from his side to fool me. You don't find many of those people aorund and when you stumble across one you have to grab hold of him Another memorible contribution from my side
Cheers
Hi,
I'm going to be adding a skimmer to the wall of my poured cement pool next week and was wondering if this step is necessary? Is there anything that I need to do to prep the skimmer before pouring the cement all around it? I obviously don't want it to leak.
Thanks.
I'm going to be adding a skimmer to the wall of my poured cement pool next week and was wondering if this step is necessary? Is there anything that I need to do to prep the skimmer before pouring the cement all around it? I obviously don't want it to leak.
Thanks.
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Hi Brownsburg!
Sorry for the late reply but I was hoping for someone with actuall knowledge to chime in and give you the right answer what necessary and what is not regarding embedments in pool constructions.
I can give you the right answer when it comes to the average water tight concrete construction and that is that any embedment in a concrete construction shall be prepared with a selaing like the one I have used(or any other type). This to secure a good bonding between two different materials.
If it's necessary in a pool or not :?: I'm not sure but for me was this not a hard one... The cost for that sealing strip and the primer coat is vanishing in the total cost for this project.
I can establish after the first season that our pool doesen't leak, I can hardly see any water disappeared throughout the summer even if I know evaporation play a part, even in our pool
I have been thinking back and forth about how to winterizing the pool. If I should drain or not and I have come up with a final decision. I will let the water stay in. This has no financial ground only what's best for the construction, from my way of thinking.
I have bought very sturdy self supporting metal sheets that shall work as a winter cover and also a hard type of celluar plastic that I shall cover the whole area with(which hopefully prevent freezing). Two big tarps, and wood beams to build up a slope for the metal plates. thats about it!
The sheet metal cost me a awful lot of money but I figured that they will last as long as the pool, so once I have them they will serve me for a long time so with that perspective they worth the money spent.
My pool temp has dropped to 60 now and I hope for another few degrees drop before I close next weekend. It's gonna be such a good feeling to finally close the pool for the winter. This last month has been nothing but a drag owning a pool, no bathing just maintenance.
Next season will I have a totally different set up regading how we shall run our heat pump and that way extending the bathing season. I will run the heat pump on a timer instead of manually. SO I will not let the pool temp drop like I have done on periods when the weather has been lousy I have found that it's hard to get it up again, especially in the end of the season when there have been less sun(even if it has been warm).
Next season will I have the reel to the solarblanket finished also so my daughters doesen't have to wait for me to get home before they can open the pool, something that have ruled out bathing on periods when I haven't been home. What can I say more than I already looking forward to next season!
Sorry for the late reply but I was hoping for someone with actuall knowledge to chime in and give you the right answer what necessary and what is not regarding embedments in pool constructions.
I can give you the right answer when it comes to the average water tight concrete construction and that is that any embedment in a concrete construction shall be prepared with a selaing like the one I have used(or any other type). This to secure a good bonding between two different materials.
If it's necessary in a pool or not :?: I'm not sure but for me was this not a hard one... The cost for that sealing strip and the primer coat is vanishing in the total cost for this project.
I can establish after the first season that our pool doesen't leak, I can hardly see any water disappeared throughout the summer even if I know evaporation play a part, even in our pool
I have been thinking back and forth about how to winterizing the pool. If I should drain or not and I have come up with a final decision. I will let the water stay in. This has no financial ground only what's best for the construction, from my way of thinking.
I have bought very sturdy self supporting metal sheets that shall work as a winter cover and also a hard type of celluar plastic that I shall cover the whole area with(which hopefully prevent freezing). Two big tarps, and wood beams to build up a slope for the metal plates. thats about it!
The sheet metal cost me a awful lot of money but I figured that they will last as long as the pool, so once I have them they will serve me for a long time so with that perspective they worth the money spent.
My pool temp has dropped to 60 now and I hope for another few degrees drop before I close next weekend. It's gonna be such a good feeling to finally close the pool for the winter. This last month has been nothing but a drag owning a pool, no bathing just maintenance.
Next season will I have a totally different set up regading how we shall run our heat pump and that way extending the bathing season. I will run the heat pump on a timer instead of manually. SO I will not let the pool temp drop like I have done on periods when the weather has been lousy I have found that it's hard to get it up again, especially in the end of the season when there have been less sun(even if it has been warm).
Next season will I have the reel to the solarblanket finished also so my daughters doesen't have to wait for me to get home before they can open the pool, something that have ruled out bathing on periods when I haven't been home. What can I say more than I already looking forward to next season!
winterizing for the first time..
First season is over with or it has been over for quite some time but since last weekend it has been definately when I started to winterize the pool. I coulden't finish the job beacuse I had to take my daughter urgent to the hospital right when I was suppose to put on the metal plates that shall work as winter cover. She had to undertake surgery early next morning for her inflamed blind gut. Everything went well and shes home now after spent three days there. It's a standard routine to get rid of a blind gut but when you're holding her hand right before she's putting to sleep you're not so cocky. Not something I want to experience again.
Enough about that. Here is what I have been doing so far.
I have lowered the water just under the inlets which I have not plugged. Chocked the water and brushed the walls and the floor like a maniac. So the pool was clean as ever before when i started to put on the celluar plastic that I have placed over our solar blanket. That is suppose to prevent the water from freezing, or rather not letting it freeze enough to do any damage to the tiles in the pool. I'm pretty confident that it will do it's job. Over that have I placed a tarp that shall take on any any debris that will blow in under the metal plates. Everything shall then be coverd with just that, self supporing metal plates. And that is what I will do tomorrow.
I came over a really good quality celluar plastic to a reasonably price, which is more than four times as hard as the regular type that are placed in any concrete slab made for a house ground. Beacuse of it's quality can use reuse them over the years and they will just as fine as today.
I have drained all the tubes and taken in the heat pump. Everything else is in the machineroom including the swg, cart filter and the cirk.pump after it was cleaned and drained of course. The reason I can leave everything down there is beacuse I have mounted in a temperature controlled heater that will be on the whole winter. Both the floor and the walls in the machineroom was isolated from when I built it and I will temporarly cover the ceiling with isolation just for the winter, so there will be no problem for the heater to do it's work even on the coldest of days over here.
Water chemistry was like follows on the day I closed it:
FC 14,5
CC 0
TA 70
CH 70
Temp 48
Salt 2800
Will be back with tomorrow with pics of the finished job.[attachment=2:3msnooee]WinterizingIMG_0123.gif[/attachment:3msnooee][attachment=1:3msnooee]WinterizingIMG_0125.gif[/attachment:3msnooee][attachment=0:3msnooee]WinterizingIMG_0126.gif[/attachment:3msnooee]
First season is over with
or it has been over for quite some time but since last weekend it has been definately when I started to winterize the pool. I coulden't finish the job beacuse I had to take my daughter urgent to the hospital right when I was suppose to put on the metal plates that shall work as winter cover. She had to undertake surgery early next morning for her inflamed blind gut. Everything went well and shes home now after spent three days there. It's a standard routine to get rid of a blind gut but when you're holding her hand right before she's putting to sleep you're not so cocky. Not something I want to experience again.Enough about that. Here is what I have been doing so far.
I have lowered the water just under the inlets which I have not plugged. Chocked the water and brushed the walls and the floor like a maniac. So the pool was clean as ever before when i started to put on the celluar plastic that I have placed over our solar blanket. That is suppose to prevent the water from freezing, or rather not letting it freeze enough to do any damage to the tiles in the pool. I'm pretty confident that it will do it's job. Over that have I placed a tarp that shall take on any any debris that will blow in under the metal plates. Everything shall then be coverd with just that, self supporing metal plates. And that is what I will do tomorrow.
I came over a really good quality celluar plastic to a reasonably price, which is more than four times as hard as the regular type that are placed in any concrete slab made for a house ground. Beacuse of it's quality can use reuse them over the years and they will just as fine as today.
I have drained all the tubes and taken in the heat pump. Everything else is in the machineroom including the swg, cart filter and the cirk.pump after it was cleaned and drained of course. The reason I can leave everything down there is beacuse I have mounted in a temperature controlled heater that will be on the whole winter. Both the floor and the walls in the machineroom was isolated from when I built it and I will temporarly cover the ceiling with isolation just for the winter, so there will be no problem for the heater to do it's work even on the coldest of days over here.
Water chemistry was like follows on the day I closed it:
FC 14,5
CC 0
TA 70
CH 70
Temp 48
Salt 2800
Will be back with tomorrow with pics of the finished job.[attachment=2:3msnooee]WinterizingIMG_0123.gif[/attachment:3msnooee][attachment=1:3msnooee]WinterizingIMG_0125.gif[/attachment:3msnooee][attachment=0:3msnooee]WinterizingIMG_0126.gif[/attachment:3msnooee]
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Matts,
Our pool water here in Cancun is starting to cool down as well. It was only 83ºF this afternoon. We'll have to get the heater going in a few more weeks!
Our pool water here in Cancun is starting to cool down as well. It was only 83ºF this afternoon. We'll have to get the heater going in a few more weeks!
Looks like you survived your first pool season with flying colors! I'm glad your daughter is okay. When they put my daughter to sleep for her surgery, it was horrible! I know what you mean. It was great to hear from you again though! Cheers!
Congrats on a successful first closing! Glad to hear your daughter is alright (been there, done that so IKWYM!)
Thanks for the empathy everybody She's home and without symptoms so everything has turned out to the best. What worse is that my mom have been diagnosed with cancer. It have been a shocking time for us this last few weeks. We had a meeting with the doctors a few days ago and I'm carefully optimistic that they can take away the tumor with surgery. We shall have a new meeting this thursday and I can't do anything else than pray that meeting will result in good news.
I shall not bother you with my problems. I just wanted you to know why I've not been so active lately. I knew something was wrong with her a few weeks ago when I was out and visit them in their summer cottage and when she open up the door I saw that both her eyes and her complexion had a yellowish tint to it. I drove her up to the emergency where they took care of her and she's been their since. But it was not until a week ago we got the diagnose, tumor in her pancreas. My mom and my daughter had their room side by side when she was in for her blind gut so we spent quite some time up their.
Anyway! I promised that I would post a pic of the steel plates that shall cover the pool over the winter, so here it is.[attachment=0:nfccbsvm]WinterizingIMG_0328.gif[/attachment:nfccbsvm]
She's home and without symptoms so everything has turned out to the best. What worse is that my mom have been diagnosed with cancer. It have been a shocking time for us this last few weeks. We had a meeting with the doctors a few days ago and I'm carefully optimistic that they can take away the tumor with surgery. We shall have a new meeting this thursday and I can't do anything else than pray that meeting will result in good news. I shall not bother you with my problems. I just wanted you to know why I've not been so active lately. I knew something was wrong with her a few weeks ago when I was out and visit them in their summer cottage and when she open up the door I saw that both her eyes and her complexion had a yellowish tint to it. I drove her up to the emergency where they took care of her and she's been their since. But it was not until a week ago we got the diagnose, tumor in her pancreas. My mom and my daughter had their room side by side when she was in for her blind gut so we spent quite some time up their.
Anyway! I promised that I would post a pic of the steel plates that shall cover the pool over the winter, so here it is.[attachment=0:nfccbsvm]WinterizingIMG_0328.gif[/attachment:nfccbsvm]
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Sorry to hear of your mom. Our prayers are with you. My mother was diagnosed with ovarian, then colon cancer and has outlived the doctors forecasts by 15 years so far. So keep the faith and form a strong support group. It is very helpful.
Matts.
So sorry to here about your mother's illness. We shall keep her in our prayers for a speedy and completely successful recovery.
So sorry to here about your mother's illness. We shall keep her in our prayers for a speedy and completely successful recovery.
Matts, I'm so sorry. That is awful news please know you are not bothering us - vent if you need to, we are at least here to listen if nothing else.