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  1. Sunny Blues

    Guidance on next steps for a overwhelmed new pool owner

    With FC levels that low it will deplete fast and you will have to keep adding more liquid chlorine every single day if not twice a day to maintain it. Once you can get your water balanced I would take your CYA to 40 or 50. You need to run with a higher FC when your CYA is 50, but it lasts longer...
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  3. Sunny Blues

    Target ph or CYA first

    I swear this post looks absolutely identical to another one from recent days. 🤔 Myself, I would add chlorine first. Your green water will probably eat through your chlorine so you want SLAM levels constantly all day every day until it is clear. So get that going. Shoot for maintaining 10ppm...
  4. Sunny Blues

    Information overload

    It also just occurred to me that there really is extreme information overload at pool stores or in the pool sections, and I bet it’s intentional. If you start to feel that it’s just too much to wrap your head around (and it is if you’re using pool store/pool service chemicals,) well then it...
  5. Sunny Blues

    Information overload

    It IS confusing at first. I remember that when I started. It took me a long time to understand what to look for. CYA is sometimes called “stabilizer”. Look for the ingredients and it should only have cyanuric acid as the active ingredient. We sometimes get the granular Clorox brand at Walmart...
  6. Sunny Blues

    Pool Liner Replace - first time NOT going DIY on it. Have some ?s

    I live in northern Illinois Chicago suburbs. We just had our liner replaced this spring. Our pool is a Grecian 16x32, 6ft deep end with full stairs at shallow end. All quotes were $7200-$7900. We paid $7200 which included everything and two trucks of fill water. Liner, measuring, draining, all...
  7. Sunny Blues

    Help! Just opened and not sure what to Balance first

    I would truly kick the pool store to the curb for real this time. Those products you just used are “pool store” (industry) chemicals and concoctions, so they didn’t get kicked to the curb. Depending if you continued to use them and/or others late last summer or at closing they would be...
  8. Sunny Blues

    best chlorine tablets for my cement pool?

    You’re wasting sooooo much money buying the chemicals your husband has used. And then you need different chemicals to combat what they have done to the pool. Why bother? Chlorine doesn’t need all that help. After converting to TFPC, I went from spending over $2,400/year on chemicals and...
  9. Sunny Blues

    Bubbles! - Chems doing their THANG or.... ????

    When I first read Pool School I made sure to follow every link (blue highlighted words) in each article and read those too.
  10. Sunny Blues

    Clear Water but algae returning

    Also, make sure to thoroughly clean every nook and cranny of your skimmer. Scrub it down well. Be sure your vacuum is also thoroughly cleaned so it’s not adding algae back into the pool either. Just a couple things to be certain of.
  11. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Yep!!! That expired chlorine probably isn’t even 4% now. The Woodman’s with a best by date of 2025 is fresh!!! It’s good. Usually the best by date is one year after manufacturing so it was probably bottled in Feb or Mar of this year. Mine is best by Feb 2025. I’m planning to use it before...
  12. Sunny Blues

    Help me! I'm trying but failing:)

    Using pool math, calculate how much acid you need to reduce your pH to 7.2. Add that. Then let the pH raise naturally, or use a fountain to induce surface bubbles to raise it faster. Let your pH rise to 7.6. Then test alkalinity again. If it’s still not below 100, do that process again. We...
  13. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Yes, please don’t forget that this is not representative of what a typical TFP year is like after opening your pool. Don’t judge it by what you have had to go through to fix your water. If you stick with us you will see next spring just how different it really is. My opening last year...
  14. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    We certainly had a torrential downpour last night, didn’t we? LOL Hopefully nothing on your solar cover is reintroducing anything into your pool? I wonder if that is possible? We stopped using ours when we started TFP. I know they are great and all but we found it a cumbersome headache to use...
  15. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Yes but I learned this in our first two years here, when I was just learning too. It served me well. That’s why our 13 year record was achieved. How can a CYA of 50 be a costly mistake?
  16. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    I live in northern Illinois and anything 40 ppm or less we found more cumbersome to maintain. We stay between 50-70 and have not had a single swampy episode in 13 years, not even a trace of algae. We haven’t had to do any slamming the rest of the season after opening the pool. That’s the only...
  17. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    See I disagree just because of what we experienced the past 13 years. Our CYA readings increase within hours of doing this. Always by the very next day, but mostly the same day. I don’t have DE in my sand filter though so I wonder if that interferes with some pools? We also backwash right...
  18. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Oh for some reason our skimmer sucks water fast so it’s like a little whirlpool in there. 😂
  19. Sunny Blues

    New borate drop test at piscines-apollo vs. test strip

    I’ve always wondered this too. If I remember correctly there is only 4ppm difference in each drop. I have sometimes errored on the side of using that next drop to be sure knowing it really is just a difference of 50 ppm vs 54. Or 30 ppm vs 34. But other times I take the one less drop reading...
  20. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    I’d highly recommend you increasing your CYA though to at least 50ppm. It’s a much more comfortable level for maintenance. And it’s relatively easy. My husband has two tube socks he uses. He places a full one with granular CYA knotted at the top into the skimmer and waits about 15 minutes. Then...
  21. Sunny Blues

    0 CYA and 0 FC. Need advise

    Ammonia was her main villain this year. Always extremely difficult to combat.
  22. Sunny Blues

    Brand new pool

    Lol yeah. It’s a trade off between water bill and truck fee. It takes about 3 trucks to fill our pool but we only paid for 2. It’s $400-$450 a truckload. But our water bill would have been at least half that total. It’s more of a convenience in time. Our TA is usually high and we struggle to...
  23. Sunny Blues

    Brand new pool

    We too just replaced our liner after 17 years a few weeks ago. I was also worried that the truck that brought the water (14,000-15,000 gallons of it) would be horrendous to balance. We used tap water to fill the last 6” of the pool. (Its 18,600) I was pleasantly surprised that it was just as...
  24. Sunny Blues

    CYA and Clarity

    Well my spewed nonsense was more fun to read 🤣 Thanks for the clearer explanation of what happens under the cover in winter 👍
  25. Sunny Blues

    CYA and Clarity

    The way I’ve always understood it is (and pardon my unscientific novice-level explanation) that chlorine will continue to be used up during the winter to keep the water clean, and when it starts to run low the chlorine that is bound up and protected by the CYA is released to keep it maintained...
  26. Sunny Blues

    Hi Y'all from Mississippi

    Read, read, and read some more - everything under “Pool School” and any pertinent threads for chemicals, balancing, testing, equipment. Review the kinds of pools from plaster to vinyl, etc., and all the different equipment and lighting and water features you can utilize. If you know of things...
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  28. Sunny Blues

    New and starting out

    That’s the kit I have. It has served me well for 13 long years. I get my refills from tftestkits Make sure you downloaded the Pool Math app. Start with accurate readings for chlorine, ph, alkalinity, and CYA. Then report them back here and these fine members will guide you. It is well worth...
  29. Sunny Blues

    60's Coke Machine Disaster!

    Never laughed so hard. I needed this thread 🤣
  30. Sunny Blues

    Accomplishing SLAM correctly?

    Just know the pucks or tabs you use while away will also increase your CYA. Aim for raising it to 40 or 50 before you leave, but I suspect it will be higher than that when you return depending on the amount of tabs/pucks it dispenses while gone. But that’s ok so long as you don’t get extremely...